5 hours in and I pretty much agree with this. I wish the sound stage was a little bigger but otherwise they are solid. I definitely like them better than the 660s and they sound a little more balanced than the 650s.

I started using them last week. I completely agree with you. I use them mostly for gaming so it's not big issue with me. The bass is not tight enough to pull it off. Overall it's a good headphone at the price point. The grado GH2 and OPPO pm1 spoiled me with good low end. My ears are tainted now.

I was using the hd650s for a while. It's great gaming headphone if you want to avoid any harsh sounds. I just picked up the Meze 99 classics for gaming. They are pretty good for a closed back headphones. Decent sound stage and good bass. Very comfortable and easy to drive. They have more of fun...

I just got a pair of classics yesterday. They sound pretty good. The only thing that bugs me are the vocals. They sound a little recessed. Is this because of the larger pads or the just the sound sig?

Yea the Meze cable. I was looking at the silver. I would use the 3.5 adapter on my home dac/amp.

Will upgrading the cable make a difference? I don't plan on running in balanced. Idk if I should buy the classics without the upgraded cable.

Whats the weight? grams?

To be honest, I don't remember. Can jam was ridiculous. So many damn headphones at once is hard to take in. You really just remember your impression when you walk away. I went in looking for the sundara so I spent a little more time with it. I noticed the overall clarity, vocals and sound stage...

The build was also a step up from past products. I don't remember all the details of the sound but I walked away very impressed.

I heard the Sundara yesterday at Can Jam. I thought it was the best value open headphone at the show. If your in the market for sub $1000 can, you should check them out. If you like the hifiman house sound, you will probably love them. They have great clarity and are easy to drive. I thought...

No Grado or Burson?

I only had them for a short period of time but they are excellent headphones. Great all around headphones. Good review. I have the 660s and the Afo are a level above in sound quality imo.

Based on that, I would recommend the 660s. I paid $450 in the usa. Look out for coupons on Sennheiser's website.

Absolutely worth the price difference if you don't already have a pair of 600 series head phones imo. Debatable if you already own a 650. I can see a lot of people holding onto both. The resale value is so low right now for the 650s.

It's closer to the 650s. They are cleaner with a punchier and more transparent sound . Little details in the music are popping out. Instruments and vocals sound a little better to me. I'm not blown away but still satisfied. It will appeal to anyone who likes the house sound but wants something...

Not as good as the Oppo pm1 or Grado GH2 but improved.

Hits a little harder and tighter. Not really deeper imo.

I agree with you. Its a great design but just not a big fan of the plastic.

I'm a couple hours in on 660s. Currenlty using a Questyle amp/dac that's fairly neutral. I also own the 650's. It's a more dynamic 600 series headphone. They maintain that 600s series signature sound with better bass and detail. I must admit I was initially disappointed with the cheap plastic...

Placed my order. I own the 650 and I have owned or heard plenty of headphones under 1k. I will post my thoughts when I get them. I wonder how the 660s compare to the oppo pm1. That might be an interesting comparison.

They sound a little warm to my ears. No where near the 650s though.

Also I really like the middle pads. They have a nice smooth sound to it. Coming from the hd650 I need them.

I just got my Afo a couple hours ago. Nice all around head phones. They lack some bottom end imo. The sound stage is just right to my ears. Classical sounds great, almost as good as the he560. Hip hop and electronic are lacking a little. They are pretty close to neutral without sounding boring...

Awesome, thanks!

Anyone get to hear the Aeon Flow open?