@ proxops-pete:  The Cable does not make any sound while moving around...what sound should they make or better said: what exactly do you mean? As I told, they're the perfect addition to the Zoros but all in all I use the HAMMO right now: ...

Hi,   oh dear okay. I made a little different experiences: I own ZoroHD also. Sure, the Sound of the ZoroHD is greater in overall performance which makes it more comfortable for some kinds of music. The Rios bass is deeper and more present than the Zoros, especially bassy music sounds...

Hi Folks,   check it, I found them here: http://www.poppstar.eu/bestseller/electronics-fashion-noontec-kopfhorer-noontec-rio-in-ear.html     I love the Rios pretty much but only available in Europe I think.     Regards   Fabian