Quote: Originally Posted by devilsadvocate I just got mine and think they're great. If you want IEMs that sound like speakers get the super.fi 5 EBs. But these are a different animal. And the bass isn't bad for an IEM. These are harder to drive than some. What equipment are you using...

Just got mine today, hate to say it but these phones suck. No efficency and no bass. You may think I don't know what is good, I own a pair of dynaudio contours 3.3 speakers with a simaudio titan amp