I basically agree with the starting post. I recently purchased the Zee's Baldur MKIII cables for both my Shure Bronze Se535's and my Westone W4r's. Break in is required for both. I guesstimate 80 hours minimum; 20, to start to hear definite differences. The sound settles down, integrates and...

When the cable differences 'doubting Thomases' and the 'at odds ears' showed up, this thread really tanked. I have seen it before on Head-Fi.org.

I just studied enlarged photos of the Baldur MKIII cable for the W4r and Se535 and the cable for each does not seem nearly so heavy, stiff and bulky as the Baldur Storm cable for the Se535 which also chafes my ears a bit. I therefore just returned the Storm cable (within 14 day return period)...

As noted in my "signature," I am using for cables Zee's Music 4N OFC for my Se215 (huge upgrade across the board) and for my W4r (noteworthy upgrade across the board) and a Baldur Storm (a significant improvement in some important regards) for my Se535, but fat, stiff and heavy. If any one has...

testing for "signature" inclusion

I have gotten excellent results with Zee's Music 4N OFC cable which is cheap, but Zee's keeps running out of stock on the cable. It puts the SE215 in contention overall with the Westone W4r stock cabled unit IMO. I also use it with good results on the Westone W4r. The SE535 is harder to match...

 se says "   "The subject of this thread is "audible differences." If you wish to discuss "differences I hear," then start a new thread as it is off topic for this thread." What a petty tyrant. Who made you God to decide what is and is not off topic and by how much and what people can and...

se, would you butt out and go take your hatchet to other trees if instead of saying "audible differences" we rephrased and said "differences I or we hear?" Or would you still butt in and to tell us we could not possibly hear "such differences."  If so, that is clearly Facistic speech policing

Hearing differences has been my experience and that of my friends for years. Without looking, when cables were switched and we listened, we could hear differences and tell which cable was which repeatedly without looking, even to the point of telling when the cables weren't switched after being...

se says "And anyone who is truly interested in audio should be at least reasonably well versed in how any why we perceive the things that we perceive. Human beings are not the perfect measurement instruments our vanities and egos would like to lead us to believe. That's why the field of study...

This has been my experience and that of my friends. Without looking, when cables were switched and we listened, we could hear differences and tell which cable was which repeatedly without looking, even to the point of telling when the cables weren't switched after being told they were. It was a...

This subject area is vast and clearly out of place here, but are the implications of your comment  1) all or most high end amp/preamp manufactures largely use the same or basically the same components stocked by other manufactures, and 2) Amps and preamps which measure the same sound the same...

The flat earthers really do dampen any discussion on Head-Fi of the sonic differences between cables, as I earlier explained.  We have an example here. Indeed, a further example is as to the entire thread. But more specifically . . . I discussed the sonic properties of several different...

 Son? Pay attention? I am 73, have multiple advanced degrees from a top university and have been in high end audio since soon after the 33 LP was invented. I have also been fortunate enough to have gone through and owned some of the very best audio equipment available. Your condescension fails.

This is a worm's eyed view. "Not being able to back them up" comes from too quickly switching back and forth in double blind testing. That technique overlooks too much and errs. This made clear in Nobel prize winner Daniel Kahneman’s new book Thinking Fast and Slow. (Highly recommended.) He is...

  Zorrofox: OK, why would you put it that way? Why not just answer yes to my question?     Indeed, why not answer the question?

True. But top amplifier designers minimize circuitry, design their own resistors and capacitors. use much silver and gold, use ground buses, never ribbon cables, never standard potentiometers. They try to sidestep the problems you raise

Why lack civility and mannered discourse? You reveal yourself.

Such a person as se should be monitored.

Or to get more technical about it, it is not just a question of the resistance of a cable. That is too simple minded an approach. A better question what is the impedance of a cable at various frequencies? Impedance is the opposition to current flow to included resistance, capacitive reactance...

Our ears, especially if schooled by constant  exposure to live unamplified  music, are an extremely sensitive device at detecting differences that the art of measurement is too crude, primitive and poorly developed to detect. (For example, NASA sought a cable from  a high end cable designer that...

Those who persist on Head-Fi in the long dead view elsewhere that cables and interconnects don't make an audible difference have their own just deserts in the inferior systems they are self condemned to listen to. Inferior sound is their reward, if you can call it that. Also, many on Head-Fi...

I have decided to part ways with the Sennheiser ie80. What the increased clarity of the OCC silver plated cable allowed me to pinpoint  was a noise and harmonic overhang I have heard before in 2 channel  room stereo. It derives from porting the driver chamber at the port. It is most audible on...

Well, as I suspected, I could not resist trying the custom cables (HiF Acoustic OCC strands with silver plating) with the Sennheiser ie80 without the tape mod. It stood no chance, I thought, of getting things correctly. Well, I am suitably chagrined. I was flatly wrong. Someone knew what they...