As for the sleuthing...   Anyone heard of Sefour for DJ stands? The address on Sefour.com (and AngleAndCurve.com) points to a meeting & conference centre. The address the domains were registered from appears to be a flat in Solihull.

Well spotted - the OEM may well have based the design on those in the first place!

Looking at Street View I think you were right on the building - but it doesn't look anything like the photo on their website! Bok Bar is #20, Sefour are #17-19, and the street does appear to have numbers up one side and then down the other (Tesco Extra is #22-25 and #30 is on the other side...

Sefour - Angle & Curve's "parent company", if Angle & Curve isn't simply a trading name of Sefour - have a shop at the exact same address as Angle & Curve, as illustrated: http://www.sefour.com/store/   Anyone heard of Sefour? They resell their DJ stands & storage units through other web...

You're in London, maybe you could pop a suit on and drop by, telling them you're looking to invest and then ask to see their manufacturing environment - and R&D office? ;)

Did philcod1984 delete his post?   In response... no, I'm not a conspiracy theorist - although I work with one, and he cracks me up all the time! I've seen enough of the product (three photos of the same product detailed enough to see they ARE the same, from three separate companies, all...

That was more-or-less my point. Maplin do this all the time, I looked at a tiny bluetooth QWERTY keyboard there priced at £15, scanned the barcode with my Android tablet and got one off eBay shipped from Hong Kong for a fiver. I only use Maplin for physically browsing the hardware I'm going to...

If they work for you, that's great. Even if they are a bit uncomfortable. Be glad you didn't spend £60 on them. The Amazon listing has got to be a real kick in the nuts for anyone who paid that.   If you're not using the Orange handset, you could maybe flog both on eBay for £25 & £30 and get...

Gotcha :) Sorry, I attached the "unfortunately" to the wrong part of your reply.

Not sure how to read your reply... Do you feel for A&C, after they've blatantly lied about the product? Sure, they wouldn't sell ANY if they said "We got these generic headphones and slapped a logo on the sides" - but they could have executed it better. Including not giving (allegedly) £60...

Oh, to follow up... I don't know a great deal about headphones. I do know they won't be worth £60 if you can get a free pair with a £30 POS phone. I paid £50 for my Sennheiser headphones and would say they're worth the money. Not sure which I prefer out of the Sennheiser, Sony & Skullcandy...

PMSL   Thanks - can't help but think you're being a little sarcy, but that's perfectly alright by me :)   I don't expect they'll *fall apart* - I've bought a lot of generic unbranded gear from China which has been exactly what I expect: cheap, but does the job you want them to do.  ...

Just posted about these on another thread :) I'll copy & paste wholesale and shamelessly in 3... 2... 1...       Angle & Curve's domain name, angleandcurve.com, belongs to a company called Sefour, a London company who appear to resell various bits of DJ equipment. Sefour only stock one...

  Angle & Curve's domain name, angleandcurve.com, belongs to a company called Sefour, a London company who appear to resell various bits of DJ equipment. Sefour only stock one type of headphones, and that's not the "Angle & Curve". That in itself is odd.   What's also odd is that when I...