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  1. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    You made me go look up the drawings and pull a sample from the archives (couldn't find on in my desk).   The thread size was the same.  The exposed length is .125 on the current tool, and about .320 on the old plastic or aluminum ones.   There are still a few left of the old ones under a...
  2. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

      The Knowles tool is made for removing filters from hearing aids, and earmolds (you can try a hearing aid shop, although I doubt they will give it to you to try).  They don't work to well with the ER-4.  We have a few here but they are pretty old.  I can't believe they are $286 now.  The screw...
  3. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    You normally want an amplifier with an output impedance at least 10 times lower impedance than the load.  So with the 27 ohm ER-4P you would want an output impedance of 2.7 ohms or less.  Normally the ouput impedance is quoted at one frequency and can vary especially with inductive loads like...
  4. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    On an ER-4P you should only see a drop off in sensitivity after 75 -80 ohms. 
  5. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    I think we still will replace the cable to make it a 4P.  I think it is $50.
  6. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    Yes,   The colors follow the values established by Knowles  
  7. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    Actually none of the three flange eartips are silicone.  They are all supposed to be the same material specification, except for color.  There is always the possibility the colorant will have an effect, and the durometer will have some range due to molding.  In some peoples body chemistry the...
  8. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    We switched the default tips attached to the ER-4's to the smaller "frost" eartip.  In the box you will find 2 pair of the gray "large" eartips which are the same as they have been for years.  IF you go back far enough they are the same as the white tips
  9. d_wilson

    If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

    The different filters will not have an effect on the low frequencies.  If I could only find the folder I put those curves with the different filters I ran in 1991!   The metal filters can cause cracking in the housing.  That one reason why we stopped using them.   If you insist on...
  10. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4PT

    It's been long enough that I forgot my password, and I ended up with a default avatar that was a nice looking amplifier I didn't recognize.  I switched it for a funny picture of my dog so I wouldn't get too many amp questions I couldn't answer.   I do look at times, but don't respond as much.
  11. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4PT

    We don't send out ER-4's of any version that have an overall level difference from 100Hz-10kHz of 2dB.  When we do a repair and can't find an adequate match for the other transducer we replace both of them.  If you have a repair in question I think the curves might be retained with the repair...
  12. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    The current cable is black and has been for over a year. The impedance of the cables has not changed. We may add a red dot on the right side in the near future for color fans.
  13. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Looking at returns, and retained samples with different life tests, we have found a couple of runs we are not happy with. The current shell is manufactured differently is not causing problems. It is always possible to crack a plastic part when you insert a metal object into it. If you have a GM...
  14. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Quote: Originally Posted by pkshan er4b sounds the most dynamic,detailed & transparent in er4 family IMO,very lively sound. Unlike er4s,the bass of 4b is very deep & punchy,vocals are MUCH better, the sound is very expressive,powerful and muscial. Besides UE10,4b is the only IEM...
  15. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Quote: Originally Posted by thevelho Hello, I have a slightly off-topic question: can I benefit from Etymotic's guarantee (and extended guarantee) if I purchased my er4p's on ebay (I bought them new). Thanks! PS: They are wonderful! As long as you keep your proof of...
  16. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Quote: Originally Posted by andrew3199 Hello Don I just wondered if you had any idea as to how long it will be before we start to see the new Ety's available from the online dealers, I was actually ready to buy A pair of the ER4p's but am now going to wait until the all black Ety's go...
  17. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Quote: Originally Posted by mrt it looks like they changed the cable (I have an older version of the er4ps but my cable insulation wore down so they're in the shop). Maybe these new cables have better isolation? Isolation from what? We haven't started using the all black cables...
  18. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Quote: Originally Posted by jeffnnj Don, I am not one who generally tells people how to run their business but if you had a rob me white ER4P 5 years ago I think you could have sold thousands more units. The iPOD is only four years old, so no one would have purchased a white ER-4...
  19. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Sorry, I got busy again. I was used to getting the auto-email from head-fi and looking at the thread. Who wants "rob-me" white? It is a possibility now with the new cable design. We have never done a group buy before, but there might be a way to do it. Would this be a cable...
  20. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Do you need a dual driver IEM, or did some marketing genius convince you that two drivers are better than one? The arguement for multiple drivers holds water when there are physical limitations to filling a large room with sound, and not a 1.4cc volume in your ear canal. What do you plan...
  21. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Yes, I work for Etymotic, and my name on the ER-4 patent. I started as a student in college, lets just say a long time ago. I meant to comment on the other thread, but haven't had time. It is funny how these things grow out of proportion. I do need to set our sales staff straight on the...
  22. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    The only part the ER-4 and the Altec lansing IM716/IM616 have in common is the white three flanged eartip. Don Wilson Etymotic Research
  23. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Of course it would also be easier to make a white version, assuming that anyone buys the white iPods any more. Could you imagine how ugly the green red and blue would look with a white cable!! I don't know when these might arrive at dealers. We don't sell directly to the dealers any more...
  24. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    It is a product improvement, not a change to a critical problem. There is no reason to dispose of current stock. You received an actual production part not one of the prototypes. Five pairs were packaged, 3 of which I purchased to have friends abuse. The other 2 pair were supposed to be shipped...
  25. d_wilson

    Etymotic ER-4P's, NEW LOOK??

    Hi, I apologize that you received one of the newer cables already. I don't know how that pair got out into the field, so much for FIFO. What you are looking at is a new cable setup that adresses some issues with the current cable. Many customers had no idea why there was a red and...
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