"... but for listening enjoyment, they rank pretty high in my book." Which is what it's all about after all, isn't it?

Thanks for your replies so far guys. Indeed, I DO hope the IE8s are different to the etys! I'll only know whether they're right for me when I've used them for a while. Have been reading the um3x threads as suggested - could be good but I still fancy the IE8.

About 7 or 8 years ago I bought myself a pair of ER4Ps and to be honest I've never been over happy with them. There have been many times in the intervening period when I've just not used them. Their qualities are well known but the single biggest thing I didn't like is the cable microphonics -...

Quote: Originally Posted by Amblin Buy yourself a Sandisk Clip or Express at ~20 quid and let your phone be a phone. ...and why have one gadget when I can have two eh?

I don't see much written about phones as sources - what are the views about them? I'm looking for a new dap now and also need a new phone so you can see where I'm coming from... Cheers guys and happy noo year to y'all

Quote: Originally Posted by prosound To the OP Have you considered recabling your 4Ps? From what I've read their cables are detachable. I wouldn't know where to start with that one! Looks like the answer to my questions is yes - microphonics are just as bad as ever...but...

Hi Guys I bought a pair of Ety 4ps around 5 or 6 years ago - after a lot of looking on this forum. Their sound is superb but the big problem for me has always been the microphonic cable which meant that I could only ever enjoy them if I wasn't moving. Kind of defeats the purpose really so...

What's your priority? Is it music or "gadgetry"? I have a sony MZ R700 and I love it. I have some serious Hi Fi kit at home so I know a good sound when I hear it. Anything you can buy today will sound great with some half decent phones. This md is my first portable music source and...

hehe (as Macdef would say) you were probably just deaf for 5 minutes

... Im sure I read that amps are best left on - it allows currents to stabilize - but digital equipment should be switched off. I heard from a rep from Cyrus that amps should have been on for at least 1 hour to get a reasonable sound but for audiophile listening (whatever that is!) it...

Peddler - thanks for your reply. I hear what you're saying about the Etys not being the best for listening on the move - that's ok as I would mainly listen to my md at various places rather than between them. Also, I don't think I would like to be completely isolated soundwise when out on...

I've been scanning the forums (fora??) for a few days now.. (I got a sony MZ-R700 for Christmas).. and me being me I need to find the best headphones to go with it. I have virtually decided to go for etys and was leaning to the 4p but also like the idea of a portable amp - whether I buy both...

I've been scanning the forums (fora??) for a few days now.. (I got a sony MZ-R700 for Christmas).. and me being me I need to find the best headphones to go with it. I have virtually decided to go for etys and was leaning to the 4p but also like the idea of a portable amp - whether I buy both...