Fair enough but I can't agree with you saying envy is at the same level as aic10 and I don't think many people will who have owned both or heard both extensively. You might prefer envys sound Signature over aic-10 but that doesn't mean its equal, they are not equal for technical performance and...

Are you talking about susvara by the way or other headphones?

No I never go to the hear envy again only that one time at kojis so can only base my impressions off that experience.

I've owned the wa33 elite for 2 years. Same for red october. Owned hm1 for many months before selling. Spent 5 weeks+ at home with aic-10 recently, heard masskobo 465 at a meet recently and heard envy a few weeks back at a friend's so I'm talking from personal experience.

Are u talking about regular envy or envy AE?

Agree. Did the same

The Envy is not in the same league as hm1 for susvara and then the hm1 is not in the same league as the summit fi amps. aic-10, masskobo 465, viva 845, wa33 elite, primavera, red october, EF1000 should be in a higher tier together

Its not even close. I've heard both. Aic is in a totally different league to envy

70lbs is the weight of the amp. 100 boxed. Red october XL is 98lbs by itself lol

Awesome I'm glad your enjoying it. Alot more people seem to be getting their hands on red october now and agree about the tonal density and midrange. It's an exceedingly good amp especially for 1266tc

What do u think of it?

What made u buy one?

Hqplayer with may ruins timbre too much for me. I really like Hqplayer for electronic and pop but for any type of real music nos for me is quite a bit better

OG susvara new name = veiled susvara

someone make a video like this for the new hifiman lmao

looks ugly and the brown what were they thinking. please have a black option hifiman :D

Today is the day guys :sunglasses:

In 13 hours they will

Thanks for the links pier

I searched tiktok for hifiman. Nothing. If anyone can work out how we all can watch it please post a link

Like If there was a tier list of amps, aic10 for me is in god tier and hm1 is in the level below it. Its a very good amp just not that special imo outside of the grip it has on the drivers of headphones but it can drive susvara extremely well. Aic is just special.

For me hm1 and aic10 are not in the same league. Aic10 is a very decent level above hm1. I also owned hm1 and sold it.