the thing you said,i have to say it's quite out of time. nowadays,even there are many fakes  in both  internet and  nomal headphone shops. and in this case,ie80 donot have many fakes on the internet, if you paid a suitable price to buy a item in china, you could hardly bought a fakes. expect...

actually i donot think it can be a suitable sub to w4r. because on the main feedbake of w4r said that it donot have any attractive to buy this EP, but it's quite comfortable.that's it.   and i forgot this web is for the US. because i'm in the england. 

eh,i'm not sure what i need to say.but i think i could give you some choices about ie80. i was looking for w4r to be  my last in-ear headphone,but i was fail,because it was stop producing and in the ebay,that price is unacceptable. so, i choose the ie80 as a substite.   ok, back to the topic...

oh,come on no one in here know that in german amazon ie80 just cost 196 eur? even many chinese bought that by some way from the german- -