Well after lots and lots of reading I finally decided to buy these as my primary headphones. I was so excited I didn't even wait until I got home to un-box them. First thing you will notice is the magnesium alloy body which is a joy to touch and feel. put them on your ears and play Beethoven you get that chills. you can hear and define the instruments its that detailed. Vocals are clean and clear. bass is okey wouldn't drive a bass head but really good. I tried it with my Laptop no complains there. And my Walkman A846 drives them ease. But I get...