Quote: Maybe it's time for a hearing test?

Just got these phones. I may be a IEM newb, but I'm surprised there isn't more discussion here about how dramatically different the sound signature is with minute differences in position. A millimeter deeper in my ears and the sound transforms from fairly-well balanced (a bit strong in the...

Quote: Originally Posted by dallan I don't know, i only tried them on one of the amps, not sure which one, for one song and was disillusioned with the sound, i couldn't believe the difference from what i had heard at home. There were some things there today i didn't get as far as...

Quote: Originally Posted by achristilaw You can have your belief system, but the fact is any moving-coil, electro-stat or iso-dynamic driver benefits from the drive "flex" that loosen the suspension mechanism and as a result transients are faster and bass is deeper. It's measurable and...

Quote: Originally Posted by achristilaw To be fair...part of the problem MAY have been that they had approx. 16 hrs of playtime (about noon Pacific). I'm not a big "burn-in" guy.

Quote: Originally Posted by moonboy403 I never thought the HD800 sounded terrible; far from it. Perhaps moving over and auditioning the balance HD800 with Ray Samuel's amps would lighten your hatred toward the HD800? (Referring to seniordingdong's post.) Ok, "terrible" was...

I love my HD280s, but I hate their sound. They are a great tracking can- great isolation, loud and robust. But they are unpleasing for listening for enjoyment. They also have an uber annoying coiled cord. I'd look elsewhere for your purposes.

Quote: Originally Posted by dallan Look at my earlier post, sometimes it sounded flat and just no good if under driven, other times it was amazing, if driven right....you got it underdriven, that was one of the set ups i was referring to but not my name. If the 800s sound...

Quote: Originally Posted by dallan Yessss go to a different room to audition them, find a solid tube amp like the Woo 5. To reiterate, my issue with the 800s was simply their overall tonality/frequency response. I don't think an amp is going to change that enough to make me like it.

Quote: Originally Posted by achristilaw You should make another journey and go to Todd's room and bring your own Music....that will change your mind. And NO their is no Sennheiser house sound if properly amped!! Perhaps I should have given them a fair shake with some other amps...

Quote: Originally Posted by moonboy403 I think the performance of the HD800 varies with amps and SE/balance. One thing I would say is that it's definitely got the Sennheiser house sound though. Which amps did you audition the HD800 with? Funny, I round it a marked departure...

Quote: Originally Posted by moonboy403 Is it just me or is the HD800 not nearly as good as it's hyped up to be? Well, not that the HD800 isn't good. I didn't enjoy it at all. Upper mids are very hard sounding with a steely top end. Not my cup of tea.

Quote: Originally Posted by myk7000 I don't quite agree with brokensound in some areas. First of all, my impression was that the soundstage was definitely smaller in the HF-2. Also, neutrality isn't quite the HF-2s strongpoint. It wasn't nearly as "neutral" as the K701 or HD650...

Quote: Originally Posted by rhythmdevils Have you heard grados with flat pads before? Because I hear the HF2 Todd had was with flats, and flats alone change the sound of grados more than the difference between models. In other words, any grado with flats will sound much more balanced...

Quote: Originally Posted by roy_jones Ahhhhhh! Do we have any impressions from someone who has owned top-end grado's before today? FWIW, I've heard numerous other grado models, including their high end stuff. Owned them? Never. I've dislike everyone I've heard until the HF2.