Quote: Must say the volume (without amp, dac only) is way higher than with the internal dac.   With the y1 sound quality is better than my old iphone 4.   I think the internal dac is limited in some way, the volume is low and quality is crappy.   (I have the international version)

Quote:   Indeed.

If anybody intrested, my old y1 dac works perfect via OTG.   I am using poweramp and SQ not bad at all.  

As for the 280 I think I can get something better in the budget.   As for the fortex, interesting headphones. But I don't have not the money nor the time for experiments.   I need good all-around, very durable and reliable headphones.  

Brainwavz and the fischer exactly the same?   My favorite is the 25-1 ii but I will try to check them all.  

The denon is way too expensive.   The fischer audio is intersting but probably will be harder to find.   Didn't know about the philips, is it new? I wait for more reviews.  

Forgot to mention portability is not important, I won't be using it outside the house.

Hello everybody, this is my first message, but I know this is the place when it comes to headphones. My old affordable Equation RP21 is close to end it's life so I need new headphones. The budget 200$, new only. Requirments: Excellent built quality, I not planning to replace them...