it is a decent value at 200ish but i think there are better subs out there for the money. it sounds rather boomy with any source and doesn't reproduce deep sub bass good at all.

these phones are really the toughest ever made as far as i know. i would bet there waterproof if you sealed the earpad. clearly says "made in germany" on both sides of the headband and shells.10/10 build quality.    the sound is more neutral than anything. they are very good for rock, with thick meaty mids and bass. the treble is screechy at times for me but its not a major flaw. upfront sound stage but slightly better than some closed cans. bass is low extending and can easily hit freq. under 40hz. techno and electronica is where these shine...