They were a gift and the I the midrange dip is not something I could live with. To be clear they were new when I got them. They probably have 2-3 hours on the them.

the treble on my jh16 has gotten so harsh that it's almost impossible to comfortably listen to music for more than 5 minutes.  Any ideas on why this could have happened?

Which dac/amps have you guys had the best luck with (with the jh16 w/fp)?  

does anyone know of a place in Chicago to test these puppies out?     For what it's worth i've called Shure HQ (suburbs of Chicago) numerous times and they have no clue where you could test these.

Had six beautiful months with my JH 16's, and then I got cocky and went out and got a 2.2 channel system.  Now the 16's don't sound as good anymore :(   But where they do still win, hands down, no questions asked, is their clarity and low-end definition. 

Quote: See, to each their own.  May I ask why you prefer the rel over the JL?

The other thing to remember with higher-end IEMs is that you don't have to worry about room acoustics, a sweet spot, and such.  You just stick the suckers in your ear canal & you're ready to go.   I will concede that I listen to only electronic music, and that my experience & views would...

Quote: Let's think of it this way:  Are you going to be getting a better bass response from sitting in a large room with big subwoofers, or from having 4 little subwoofers hermetically sealed in your ear canal?   Obviously, both experiences are different.  However, the razor sharpness is...

Quote: I have a $16,000 hifi system & an $1149 pair of CIEMS.  There are certain aspects of both that the other doesn't come close to matching.  Soundstage & Body goes to the hifi system, there's not fight there.  Even with $8,000 worth of subwoofers, the hifi system doesn't come close to...

Quote: I made the same switch earlier this year, and I have the same sentiments as you.  I'm not going to lie I truly miss the midcentric-ness of the Shure's, but the low-end on the 16'ss is just so addicting.  Still very curious as to what these will sound like.

Quote: I feel like a dick saying this, but if you're doing thorough research, there is no reason you should be in this quagmire.  

Quote: What's amazing is that with all those fat low frequencies you can still hear everything else, clearly.

So for the past month or so I've been shopping for a big audio system for my living room.  I think I've finally figured out what I'm getting, it's around $10,000, and here's the best part--my JH 16's w/freq are still better.     I mean, the clarity and low-end definition on the 16's is just...

Quote: Totally agreed, for most types of music.  With electronic music i think it's less difficult for a CIEM to match or exceed certain qualities of full sized cans.  I will say that vocals on the 16's are a little disappointing.  They're still great, but they are definitely a bit veiled...

Quote: Not in my opinion.  But  the brightness and sibilance I would chalk up to poor productions vs a bad headphone.