I received my PM4 and was planning to give a feedback, but there is already an updated version. Bob, I don't know if it is a "bug or a feature", but it seems possible to order several updated PM4 with the trade-up code.

Rillpac ( $27 in june ), but recently hakuzen confirmed that the $18 from XiaoYu was legit so I'm seriously considering getting a backup.

I have both, GR07 is more on the warm side while XE800 is clear sounding, I won't open them to check, but they both are excellent to my ears ( especially XE800 at $20 ).

Thanks crabdog, but I'm not actually looking for recommendations, I'd like to know what is good budget sound for him, since he described YHS 001 as mediocre. Agree on the W1, but now with the ZS3 at $8, competition is really tough.

That's $15+. What are your low cost iems?

Mediocre? What are your picks around $10-$15?

Not on AE, but GearBest has the best deal right now ( except if you're looking for the matte shell ): http://www.gearbest.com/on-ear-over-ear-headphones/pp_436717.html?wid=21

Since you've got some info from MaGaosi last time ( as far as I remember ), could you get a confirmation about the Knowles 30017?

Knowledge that's a big word ( you could also say that for VinceHill24 who got the info ). I don't have time to chat, so I think that my message counter will stay low. Anyway, audio has been a passion since I was a teenager, so I've had time to learn a few things .

Nice. Magaosi gained quite some popularity here with their previous products and if these are using the 30017, with a little boost at 1kHz we may have a great iem if we can get it around $80. On my wishlist.

Interesting. Looks like a Trinity Atlas Delta with an additional BA.

You're welcome. I'd like to see KZ standardizing its connector, those aftermarket cables are pretty expensive compared to KZ earphones.

That's the ZS3 cable. ZST is here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-New-KZ-ZST-Dedicated-Cable-0-75mm-2-Pin-Upgraded-Plated-Silver-Cable-2-PIN/1825606_32738979652.html

Found it too fancy at first, but after listening to the Series 5 I'd like to hear them. Wood finish ( code 3 ) looks classy.

Same here. I don't understand people stating that these are bad because they're very smooth, overlooking all the pros and focusing on a con doesn't make sense. Personally my main problem is fitting due to large nozzles. If the $20 ones listed on AE are genuine, that could be the best deal at...