Why? The Xen part of HL was rubbish.   I think it is pretty much spot on. Although Source related ladder fail is infuriating.

I think the issues here is that they have become a de facto recommendation almost without exception.   The $20 isn't the point here, What others are driving at is that a 'poor' recommendation (not meeting the OP's requiremtns) reflects badly on the whole forum.   Imagine for example...

There is a huge amount of hot air about these.    I use the almost exclusively in the office and the warm consumer friendly signature is perfect for low intensity listening. To be fair, this was exactly what they were designed to do.   From My comments on the King of value thread.  ...

how much money do you have?   you want to drive them from the ipod i assume.

In what way are you uncomfortable.   - Outer ear pain? I can only wear certain IEMs as they just don't fit my ears properly.   - Pain inside the ear like you have had overexposure to loud noise.   - Not sure, my ears just hurt.   Will help us work out whats going on.   I...

Yay for new kit :)   VSonic GR04/06 have adjustable nozzles. Will have to be an eBay or similar purchase. They are great phones.

Chewbacca defence?

Buy a new plug for your pioneers??

The company make the ones on your head at this moment.   Better than no music.

Yes. Shoot High, Aim Low.   A guilty pleasure of mine. 

I was Illustrating the point that maybe the GR01 could be saved with a proper damper (rather than bits of foam). Definitely cheaper than new 'phones. 

I'm selling mine if anyone (in the UK) is interested.   My ears are incompatible.

Agree.   Money staying in pocket.

Quote: Not really.   Many here are suggesting you buy a used body (the part that suffers the most depreciation), especially one with an AF motor drive, this greatly increases the lens flexibility you have.   I have a D90 with an 18-200 and 50mm F1.8D (which is silly cheap). The...

Its not snobby at all.    I must admit I struggle with shoegaze a bit. For example, I love Ferment, but much of the other shoegaze classics leave me cold.    I am the same with Radiohead. The rest of my music collection points to me liking them, but I really, really don't.   Swings...