Quote:   Hey mate thanks for the recommendation. Will be considering this and doing an audition if I have the chance/ time. Any idea of this compared to SM3? The latter seems to have similar sound sig/ stage as e5 but I have to hear for myself. The 3 way crossover seems interesting.

Anyway any suggestions for upgrade? Earsonics SM3?

Found an appreciation thread for shure e5c/ scl5 after all (the first and original?) which is dated like 7 years back. http://www.head-fi.org/t/148153/shure-e5c-appreciation-thread   Good to know that appreciation for e5c/ scl5 does exist!

Updated the title. Maybe more user of shure e5/ scl5 can discover this haha.  

Hi all   Didn't get any reply from another earsonics sm3 thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/552337/earsonics-sm3-v2/900 hence shall try my luck here.   Any user of Shure SCL5/ E5c out there to do a comparison? May want to upgrade to a 3 drivers IEM soon. I know its a 3 drivers vs 2 drivers...

  Opened up my ue superfi 5 eb as I constantly find the RHS has lesser bass and suspect its due to seal issue. Turns out the sound tube is indeed broken and has leakage. Hope this picture will help someone in one way or another. Red colour damper in the tube and model of high freq driver is UE...

Any user of Shure SCL5/ E5c out there to do a comparison? I know its a 3 drivers vs 2 drivers IEM but am very interested in the comparison of sound stage. IMO SCL5 has one of the widest sound stage out there. The old Westone UM2 may be totally similar in construction to E5c (check out their...

thanks man...really appreciate your help in explaining the difference. Seems like a good crossover + damper is the way to go for flat response...  

Thanks for the link, was informative. Was just wondering since the purpose of cross over and dampers is the same i.e. to tune freq, which is a better choice, or is there a need to use a combination of both. Will human ears be that sensitive as to hear the difference between a combination of both...

Quote:   That I agree totally..I wonder does the sound from iem with crossover vary greatly against sound from iem using only dampers? Assuming both iem are the same (other than dampers vs crossover) and frequency tuned are close to but not exactly the same as each other (due to stock...

Very nice work you've got there MuZo2. Looks very professionally made... anyway best is indeed hard to define as it is itself very much defined by personal preferences? and best itself can mean best for listening pleasure? sound referencing? Guess this is what makes sound a form of art.  ...

Thanks for the reply MuZo2 and edba2000. This is seriously one of the most amazing thread so far.

Quote:   Wow edba2000, impressive to say the least! (as do many others here for their effort). Does the placement of the drivers (angle, distance from opening) within the shell matter? And what method do you use to fix your drivers into position within the shell so that they do not move?

Anyway does anyone happen to know where did UM source its dynamic driver for Merlin? Will be excellent if a dynamic driver could replace the BAs... --> less tuning and no crossovers? Or maybe just act as a woofer i.e. do a Merlin or superfi. 5 EB (which is difficult).

have been checking out this thread since last year... read that someone mentioned loctite 3321 is a safe bet for shell and i found this on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Loctite-Medical-/140685694030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item20c185544e so hopefully it helps someone out there..  

Quote: Thanks man for the info. Read from some forum (can't remember where) saying that the cable was the issue. Was thinking it doesn't make much of any sense.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have problem driving this pair of earphone? Am using Cowon D2 so I suppose it shouldn't be much of a prob? Still waiting for mine, should be arriving any day soon..  

hey thanks for the quick reply! well that's really going to inch me towards getting a pair...appreciate your help a lot.

Hi Kunlun thanks for your impression. Can't really find more info on this new pair of universal fs atrios. What about your impression of its sound stage? As I have not owned atrios before but only listened to it for like half an hour, I can't really remember how's the sound stage like. Is it...

              Hi all     Have been looking around but didn't manage to find much info on SCL5 (a discontinued product from shure).   Really liked this pair of iem to the extent I am thinking of purchasing a brand new set just to collect.   For the curious head-fiers...