They were a gift and the I the midrange dip is not something I could live with. To be clear they were new when I got them. They probably have 2-3 hours on the them.

the treble on my jh16 has gotten so harsh that it's almost impossible to comfortably listen to music for more than 5 minutes.  Any ideas on why this could have happened?

Which dac/amps have you guys had the best luck with (with the jh16 w/fp)?  

does anyone know of a place in Chicago to test these puppies out?     For what it's worth i've called Shure HQ (suburbs of Chicago) numerous times and they have no clue where you could test these.

Had six beautiful months with my JH 16's, and then I got cocky and went out and got a 2.2 channel system.  Now the 16's don't sound as good anymore :(   But where they do still win, hands down, no questions asked, is their clarity and low-end definition. 

Quote: See, to each their own.  May I ask why you prefer the rel over the JL?

The other thing to remember with higher-end IEMs is that you don't have to worry about room acoustics, a sweet spot, and such.  You just stick the suckers in your ear canal & you're ready to go.   I will concede that I listen to only electronic music, and that my experience & views would...

Quote: Let's think of it this way:  Are you going to be getting a better bass response from sitting in a large room with big subwoofers, or from having 4 little subwoofers hermetically sealed in your ear canal?   Obviously, both experiences are different.  However, the razor sharpness is...

Quote: I have a $16,000 hifi system & an $1149 pair of CIEMS.  There are certain aspects of both that the other doesn't come close to matching.  Soundstage & Body goes to the hifi system, there's not fight there.  Even with $8,000 worth of subwoofers, the hifi system doesn't come close to...

Quote: I made the same switch earlier this year, and I have the same sentiments as you.  I'm not going to lie I truly miss the midcentric-ness of the Shure's, but the low-end on the 16'ss is just so addicting.  Still very curious as to what these will sound like.

Quote: I feel like a dick saying this, but if you're doing thorough research, there is no reason you should be in this quagmire.  

Quote: What's amazing is that with all those fat low frequencies you can still hear everything else, clearly.

So for the past month or so I've been shopping for a big audio system for my living room.  I think I've finally figured out what I'm getting, it's around $10,000, and here's the best part--my JH 16's w/freq are still better.     I mean, the clarity and low-end definition on the 16's is just...

Quote: Totally agreed, for most types of music.  With electronic music i think it's less difficult for a CIEM to match or exceed certain qualities of full sized cans.  I will say that vocals on the 16's are a little disappointing.  They're still great, but they are definitely a bit veiled...

Quote: Not in my opinion.  But  the brightness and sibilance I would chalk up to poor productions vs a bad headphone.  

Quote: Nah, I'm driving them with the CEntrance DacMini.  I agree, the vocals are better on the he-500 vs jh16, but the lack of low-end definition, drive & impact kind of just ruins the experience.  Gonna have to pop on the waiting list for the LCD3.

Upon hearing all the stelar reviews from Headfiers on how great the HE-500's are with electronic music, I went ahead and borrowed them from the Cable Company along with CEntrance miniDac.  Gotta say, they ain't got a sliver of **** on the JH16's.  Seriously, I hoped they would, I'd like to get a...

I've been a strict IEM/CIEM for a good 6 years.  I just got the HiFiMan he-500 recently, and I just seem to be having a really hard time adjusting to the new sound.  It doesn't seem nearly as bright or alive as my CIEM's.  Has anyone else experienced this?

Also, does anybody have a good recommendation for a cable.  My JH16 w/freqphase is paired with the predator.  I wouldn't be opposed to a cable that could smooth out the harsh treble.

Lately I've been noticing that the 16's just have such an easy time reproducing great sound.  I wish I could explain it better.  It's as if it's effortless, & the effortlessness is noticeable.  The effortlessness leads to such a smooth fluidity.  Needless to say, I'm a happy camper.  

I've gotta admit, this RSA predator sounds like crap with my 16's.  When I spend an hour with someone else's it sounded amazing with my 16's, but mine just sounds really muddled and messy, with subpar low frequency extension.  Not sure if it's that I got a regular usb cable for it, or burn-in is...

Quote: I got to try the JPS headphones.  I imagine that these are geared towards people who are searching for the absolute best neutrality that money can buy--I was not impressed.  

Went on Friday for an hour.  Being the blowhard I am, I neglected to read that this is chiefly a home audio show.  At least I got to finally try the LCD-3's--divine--and the HD 800's.  I also got to learn that people really, really, really like Jazz at these shows haha.  I mean if you're showing...

Quote: I was told to leave it running as often as possible using pink noise.  Does it make a difference if it's hooked up & running with pink noise w/out headphones plugged in, or do headphones need to be plugged in?

I recently upgraded from my se535's to the JH 16's.  I'm having slight fit issues--the seal is not great.  Even with a poor seal, the sound is leaps and bounds better than the shure's.  I'm too attached to send them back in, I will soon.  But I really wouldn't worry about fit issues, just follow...