Quote: Dude, get the Zino's and transplant the drivers. There are many rumors that the Zino drivers came from a larger Ultrasone phone and from trying the drivers out in several larger enclosures I can say that this is almost certainly true. They sound better in every enclosure that...

ljokerl, have you seen these...   Quote:         I'm getting a pair on Tuesday. I'll let you know if they're up to snuff.   But, man, with all those features I think I'd buy them for that price without any drivers.            

ISHCABIBLE! TAKE CARE OF YOUR THREAD, MAN!!!

I have never heard an AKG unfortunately. The Cortex's do go lower and yes I'm sure that they are the same as the Prodide's minus the tape. At least, when I took them apart that was the only discernible difference.   Same enclosures, same sqaure piece of foam inside, same slots (but like I...

I'm 38. I learned early to use earplugs at concerts and while at the shooting range... thank goodness.

Quote: That's surprizing. I've owned three pairs now and a pair of their clones, the Cortex CHP2500's, and all seemed built to last IMO.     BTW, The ONLY difference between the Cortex's and the Prodipe's is that felt tape over the vent slots at the rear of the enclosure...

My hearing starts to fall off at 16K and above 17 I'm deaf.

You say warm and lush in one instance then you say mids as forward as possible. This kind of seems like a contradiction to me.   Prodipe Pro800's are made in Europe and have MOST of your requirements down pat. Might want to give those a try.

Quote: Yup, RadioShack. Sorry, didn't realise you were from Europe. Let me read you description again.  

Quote: Well, knock-off or not they sound fantastic especially for the price.    

The first thing you need to understand is that stated specs mean exactly spit. For example...   I recently bought a pair of $40 Pioneer portables that stated their responce at 12 - 22,000 Hz. I also ordered a pair of Coby's (that's right, Coby's) for $15 that were discontinued that I wanted...

That's the problem - bass isn't just a one dimensional thing like most people seem to think.   Do you want more depth? Do you want more impact? Do you want cleaner bass. Or do you want bass that is ever prevalent and boomy?   People really need to start describing what they want...

They're molded slots.

Quote: I never said they would go lower I said the bass that's there is 5 or 6X as powerful. I own them and owned the XB500's... Have you???  

Why do I always get the feeling that I'm being ignored on the full-sized forum? What, do you think I go around recommending crappy phones all day for kicks or something??? I have over 400 phones and have listwened to MANY others. I recommended those Creative HQ-1600's on the portable forum and...

Quote: I owned a pair and they are not what I would call "bone shattering" at any level. If you really want bass that powerful the Creative HQ-1600's leave the XB500's in the dust, period.    

Quote: The Auvio Concert Class phones sound almost exactly the same as the XB500's exept they are much clearer sounding and cost $20 less. Just remove the hard felt off the grill plate and you are good to go.  

The creative HQ-1600's have the type of bass that's so powerful it can make you ill on some tracks. It's thunderous. It will smash your face in and leave you for dead and you don't need to turn it up loud to hear this.   The Philips SHP2500's have good bass depth for a pittance.   If you...

Quote: I can say, after seeing a few Ultrasone drivers, that these are definitely NOT Ultrasone's. Also, only about half of the tiny little vents are covered with felt tape. The rest of them are completely open.     EDIT: Ugh... I need to learn to look at the pics before commenting...

Quote: Why don't you just get those Pro 4/AA's off me? What? I know you wanted them.       And Ishcabible, answer the questions in your review thread, dude.  

BTW, he's already stated that he likes the Prodipe's better than his K271's and the M50's he heard. Hopefully he'll come in here and clarify soon.

Quote:   Well, I mean they are full-sized cans, man, so they're fairly big but they do fold up like a DJ can (although they market them as monitors not DJ cans).   I'll have to let Ish tell you exactly how big the pads are as I can't find my tape measure but they are BIG. I think...

Quote: Completely circumaural.  

Quote: Yeah, he must have forgot that they have to say Grado or Ultrasone or Sennheiser on the side in order to sound good.     His bad, his bad...  

Added some coments to your review, Ish. Man I hate that snob-filled forum. If I could reach through my monitor what I wouldn't do to the guy who simply said "Yay." Grrrrrrrr...   Anyways, one guy asked for some comparisons to some more well known phones and I think that's a good idea.