I'd go with aftermarket cups just for the looks. I've never heard a Denon though, so I have not comments on the sound.

Quote: Originally Posted by nhancakes full size headphones are never stylish anyway. There are exceptions to that rule. L3000s? Ultrasone Edition 9s? Headphile Darth Beyers? Oh, and the woodied Grados actually fit into the good looking category I'd say.

Quote: Originally Posted by estreeter For a great allrounder that wont break the bank, its hard to go past the MS1 Grado's are great, particularly since they don't really need to be amped, but I have to wonder if he really wants to go open in a dorm room environment.

For rock and classical, I doubt you'll beat a grado.

Quote: Originally Posted by The Uam How are they with Classical, Rock, ect? Are they Comfy? Ultrasone 780's are quirky headphones. They are very colored and very unrefined, but good nonetheless. As far as impact is concerned, they are tied with Edition 9's for the best I've ever...

Great game. But not as good as Carcassone. Carcassone has pretty much no setup time, and is just as easy to learn, but has a lot more in depth strategy. It also plays very quickly.

What about the lyre?

FWIR, Denon d2000s would be great. They are supposed to be relatively easy to drive, very comfortable for long listening sessions, and have good bass, which, IMO, is a must for movies.

The PROline series is intended to be more sonically accurate. I would consider them less specialized headphones. They do ok with classical, jazz, country, etc., but not as well with electronic music. As far as the technical differences, I don't remember.

The AD700 has fine mids. I've always heard it has weak bass, and now weak mids as well? And yet the AD700 isn't bright at all... I don't understand how that works. IMO, the AD700s are just a little bit lacking in punch, a bit laid back, if you will. No amp I've heard solves the problem though.

You left out something important. What kind of music are you listening to? Unless you already have particularly brand biases, that's probably the biggest factor in choosing a pair of headphones in any given price range.

For trance and metal, I'd say Ultrasones can't be beat. I have not heard any of the Ultrasones in your price range, but if the HIFI550 and 580 are anything like the HiFi 780, you will not be dissapointed. Other closed headphone (Denon, Beyer Dynamics), don't have quite the speed of the...

You do have the STX off the 5.1 surround sound simulation mode that is the default?

I'm sure it could be done. But I wouldn't be comfortable with anything tampering directly with my nerves. Not to mention the fact that we feel music, highs as well as lows, besides just hearing it.

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky Pretty sure every headphone needs amplification. Without it, it would be hard to hear anything. I'm guessing that's my point. Anyways, it's been a lovely flame. I appreciate it lucky, epicfailman, tenzip, and all you other contributors. I'm...

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky There's nothing in the manual, which I'm holding in my hands. There was nothing on the box, either. I'm guessing they do need amplification though.

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky It's what allowed me to determine which phone I preferred with my music, my ears, and my gear. Did you or did you not attempt to power a high impedence headphone with a generic laptop speaker? EDIT: make that a sound card; I'm getting a bit tired...

Quote: Originally Posted by tenzip It is getting a bit silly, isn't it? The scientific method is going to do us absolutely not good at all in this case . . . Wait! I know, I'll compare two things under exactly the same conditions, and see which one I like better! Then I can say that...

Quote: Originally Posted by Epicfailman udder fool That makes the entire thread worthwhile.

I like how lucky's arguments consist entirely of attacking epicfailman's personal listening experience rather than addressing the real issue at hand, which is whether or not AKG701s sound like AKG701s when heard through a laptop. I like it almost as much as I like how epicfailman thinks an...

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky I'm talking about the K701. When last did you own one? Did I own one? I have never owned either an AD700 or a K701. I don't see where I enter into it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Epicfailman If you set out to compare two runners and handicap one of them, that is not life being unfair, that is your experiment failing...the result is not valid. Like I said, go read up on the scientific method. if you give the upper hand to one party on...

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky You don't personally know anything about these headphones. That's a pretty big insult to give a guy who owns one of the pairs of headphones being discussed. Or are you insinuating that epicfailman is deaf?

Quote: Originally Posted by tenzip You're missing the mark. The result is valid. One lost the race, one won. It's kind of like life, unfair, but those were the conditions that obtained. It's like saying that it's invalid to say the sky is blue instead of black because there's atmosphere...

Quote: Originally Posted by lucky You have no idea how much power the K701 needs to perform as "intended", nor how much power it received from my setup, nor how the phones are "intended" to perform. He has absolutely no idea how much power akg intended their headphones to...