Got the wf-1000xm3 and I'm actually shocked how good they sound. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend spending money on them. Really pleased.

Yes, the little tiny headphone bar. Do they sell headphones at the other ones?

So I finally had a chance to A/B my Stellias with some Utopias along with B&W P9s and Mr Speakers Aeon Closed. (If you get a chance, visit spirtland in London. Small place but some great cans to Demo). I have to say that the Stellias sound an awful lot like the Utopias. Maybe not as much...

I hear that a lot from people who haven't heard the Stellia.

LOL

Can we ridicule people that think you have to break-in digital components in this thread or do we need a new one?

Its best to ignore these posts. Too much religion. Honestly, I can't hear the difference between most DACs, let alone break-in of electronics. No good can come from engaging.

I like the Dragonfly because it doesn't require a battery of its own and because it is small. It makes things much easier and for me, the compromise in any sound quality isn't something my ears can hear.

Man, It's gotten so bad that I don't even go on the 405 anymore from Ventura County. I used to be in LA all the time, its just not worth the effort anymore. Miss going to Kings Games too. LOL

I've heard that the Stellia has sealing issues, but I literally cant seem to have any. Even if I hold the cans to my head, the bass response really doesn't change. I find them to be bass-light, not heavy at all. At least for R&B type music with thumping bass. For anything else it has plenty...

Wish the 405 didn't have so much traffic. I'd come by.

I didn't mean to come across harsh. Sorry. But seriously, its like a million other USB devices I've used over the years. I can't believe anyone would notice, let alone pretend the, "wiggle" is an issue. Its just a board in a plastic case.

Mine has a, "wiggle" and in no way does it feel like a manufacturing defect. Just the board in the case not being sandwiched in super tight. Non-issue if you ask me.

My Cobalt came yesterday. I notice an improvement over my Red, worth the money. The wiggle complaining is dumb. Its just the board in the case not being tight. Probably a different manufacturing method to secure the case since its round, not flat. A total non-issue.

What is your budget, can you tolerate open-backs or will you be in public environments, and how portable do you want them?