Oh oops, i also forgot to mention I AAAAM looking forward to learning more about headphones so I don't feel like a completely ignorant boob on here so explaining things to me helps, thanks lol ,    Edit: just figured out how to edit posts now, sorry for posting a bunch of times on this   ...

if you can idk how but this thread has been answered for me, buying the ultrasone edition 8   -------------- Hello,   I'm brand new to this whole forum deal but I was looking on Google and this place seemed the most knowledgeable for music. Having extra money and breaking my last pair...