THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO
May 13, 2024 at 3:34 AM Post #3,242 of 3,280
Yes, show conditions are hard for open headphones. The Composer does have a bit less than the newer Harman target curve in bass, so I understand if the balance you expected might be a bit different. But maybe you find an opportunity to check with your normal listening level.
Yes, but my guess would be that especially with a lower volume due to a quiter environment the bass will be even more reduced.
Interesting finding for me at the show was that most headphones sounded great. My theory this was because I had to crank up the volume due to noise above a level I usually hear.
It would be interesting to know at what volume level the designer tuned their headphones? It is the same with speakers, a linear tuned (or equalized) speaker sound greta at 85 dB listening level but if you listen at a lower volume, this linear tuning sounds quite dull and you need loundness correction. My theory is also that the Harman curve is attractive for people who listens mostly at lower levels and people who prefer to listen at louder levels do not like Harman so much because than bass is to strong.
 
May 13, 2024 at 4:29 AM Post #3,244 of 3,280
Yes, but my guess would be that especially with a lower volume due to a quiter environment the bass will be even more reduced.
Interesting finding for me at the show was that most headphones sounded great. My theory this was because I had to crank up the volume due to noise above a level I usually hear.
It would be interesting to know at what volume level the designer tuned their headphones? It is the same with speakers, a linear tuned (or equalized) speaker sound greta at 85 dB listening level but if you listen at a lower volume, this linear tuning sounds quite dull and you need loundness correction. My theory is also that the Harman curve is attractive for people who listens mostly at lower levels and people who prefer to listen at louder levels do not like Harman so much because than bass is to strong.
Good point. Yes, Fletcher-Munson curves never sleep :wink:
Louder is more impressive at a short listen, so show impressions are always to be verified later on.
Personally I like the Composers balance since treble never gets strident and bass reaches so deep it makes itself heard despite the a bit reserved level.
 
May 13, 2024 at 5:25 AM Post #3,245 of 3,280
Has anybody found a carrying case for the Composer?

Thanks

Torben
What was wrong with the one I poseted earlier? I have been using it for months. The composer fits perfectly, and the cable fits in the bag that attaches to the inside of the case.
 
May 13, 2024 at 5:27 AM Post #3,246 of 3,280
Good point. Yes, Fletcher-Munson curves never sleep :wink:
Louder is more impressive at a short listen, so show impressions are always to be verified later on.
Personally I like the Composers balance since treble never gets strident and bass reaches so deep it makes itself heard despite the a bit reserved level.
In fact, most of my listening time is at lower volumes. The compoers is great for this. I never feel like "where did the bass go or why did the music sound so dark when i turned the volume down."
 
May 13, 2024 at 6:13 AM Post #3,249 of 3,280
May 13, 2024 at 6:16 AM Post #3,250 of 3,280
Nomax told us that AA will release a carrying case soon ... just that you know
Yes, but that doesn't help me now. I often take my composer from the country to the city and vice versa. The case I am using has been excellent. You could even step on the case and the odds are really good that the composer survives. It certainly has stood up to being inside a tightly packed suitcase.
 
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May 13, 2024 at 7:03 AM Post #3,251 of 3,280
Definitely you need to find a shop where you can listen to the composer in silence if possible, or just try to spend more time with it to hear their true potential.

Otherwise just listen to it again in a few months 😉

NOMAX
 
May 13, 2024 at 7:08 AM Post #3,252 of 3,280
Nomax told us that AA will release a carrying case soon ... just that you know

Not only that 😎

NOMAX

PS.AA gave me something else on Thursday for testing,and it wasn't the ear pads 😉
(Yes, that's how it is when you have a cleverly thought-out construction where everything can work acoustically😂)
I'm already looking forward to the fall when I can show you everything 💪🇦🇹💪
❗️And to clarify again...there will be no V2 of the Composer because of this❗
 
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May 13, 2024 at 8:03 AM Post #3,253 of 3,280
This will be an additional joyous celebration in the fall for everyone who has a composer...and until then, let's enjoy the coming summer🤘

..and to get in the mood😎



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NOMAX
 
May 13, 2024 at 10:08 PM Post #3,254 of 3,280
Yes, but my guess would be that especially with a lower volume due to a quiter environment the bass will be even more reduced.
Interesting finding for me at the show was that most headphones sounded great. My theory this was because I had to crank up the volume due to noise above a level I usually hear.
It would be interesting to know at what volume level the designer tuned their headphones? It is the same with speakers, a linear tuned (or equalized) speaker sound greta at 85 dB listening level but if you listen at a lower volume, this linear tuning sounds quite dull and you need loundness correction. My theory is also that the Harman curve is attractive for people who listens mostly at lower levels and people who prefer to listen at louder levels do not like Harman so much because than bass is to strong.

There is a reason why many acousticians prefer the 2013 Curve....this is the one that is most realistic😎

NOMAX

PS.And the one that is most suitable for long-term listening 😉
 
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May 14, 2024 at 11:18 AM Post #3,255 of 3,280
I was at High End Munich on Saturday and had a very pleasant chat with Paul Weinreich, the engineer behind the Full Score One.

I won't bore you with any more headphone impressions, but have you heard the bass yet?

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Ok, I actually want to talk about the Full Score One, and more specifically the True Transient Technology.
Paul did his very best to explain to me the science behind this function and it's purpose.
More critically, he also provided me some abstract hints as to what to listen out for (without actually giving the game away) when making comparisons while mashing the switch on and off.
With some idea of what he might be talking about I could actually VERY quickly hear precisely what changes were taking place.

Skipping to the juicy bit - the TTT button DOES work.
It has a very subtle yet noticeable effect that can most easily be discerned when paying attention to percussive reverb.

TLDR
- turning the button ON gives you the fully-detailed, insightful and FASTER sound.
- turning the button OFF gives the listener a break. Literally. It SLOWS DOWN the speed of the amplifier giving a softer presentation that let's you relax and not get force-fed all the details all the time. (this is the dumbed-down version of what is actually going on in the amp).
It's such a small difference, but one that I think can make a huge difference, especially with the Composer, which has a highly detailed and punchy sound.

Paul shared his paper on the Full Score One, it can be found here in the Downloads section, if anyone's interested in reading it:
https://de.austrian.audio/kopfhoerer/fullscoreone/

The most interesting anecdote from our conversation was that if you simply plugged the amplifier into an oscilloscope while playing a sine wave, turning the TTT on and off should instantly inform you of the speed change taking place in the transients.
I don't fully understand all the science and tech behind this, or how one could draw those conclusions, but it's interesting nobody has performed such an irrefutable test yet.

Hopefully one day a 3rd party with the right equipment and expertise can perform these tests, not only to give further insight about what this technology is doing, but how it changes the sound and why it's an important aspect of amplifier design.
 

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