One of the myths of audio is that room reflections are all bad, and that room acoustical treatment should be directed at eliminating them.
[1] This is 100% the message that I conveyed [1a] and one that you have been fighting.
[2] BTW, if you really want to know what Dr. Toole means ...
1. No it is NOT! Again, enough with the misrepresentations!! Evidence that room reflections are not all bad is NOT evidence of the opposite, that room reflections are all good and should never be treated.
1a. NO! You've (just for a change) completely misrepresented what I'm "fighting" and despite this being pointed out to you repeatedly, you just continue misrepresenting it! I have stated repeatedly that room reflections are not all bad and should not automatically be eliminated, so
how on earth does quoting experts stating that "room reflections are not all bad and should not automatically eliminated" contradict my position?
2. Huh? I already know what Dr. Toole means, he made it abundantly clear what he means, he even went to the trouble of clarifying what he means because he was obviously sick and tired of people like you misrepresenting what he means! BTW, you obviously missed the part where he states "
It is a decision to be made by the customer and/or the installer." - Note he refers to customers/installers, not specifically acoustic engineers! If you feel Dr. Toole is wrong, then why don't you take it up with him and get him to change what he's publicly stated, shouldn't be a problem if you know him as well as you're making out.
You've quoted 3 respected acousticians (that I recall in this thread), ALL of whom disagree with you! 2 of them (Weiner and Grimani) you even admit disagree with you and the third (Toole), you've misrepresented so he appears to agree with you but he's specifically quashed that misrepresentation. You then demand that I present names/references to evidence that you're wrong but why, what's the point, you've already done that admirably all by yourself!!
amirm, you seem completely normal and rational until you're challenged on some obvious misunderstanding or incorrect advice and then the red mist descends, you throw all your toys out of your playpen and turn it into: "I'm amirm, I'm absolutely right and I can prove I'm right by providing experts who disagree with me, misrepresenting the science and misrepresenting your arguments!" Maybe you've got some serious ego problem or maybe you have some product to sell but whatever, enough is enough already!!
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