ZMF Aegis Official Thread
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No problem. While they're both on the pricey side, the 5691 are definitely the more available of the two. And they're red, so that's pretty cool.
I think the input tube selection of choice varies with the DAC you're using. If you're using a DAC that stages far and wide (e.g. Rockna Wavedream), having a 5691 Red Base on the input can push the presentation too diffused. The target for me is to get a wrap-around holographic soundstage without it being too diffused or too closed in. 6SU7GTY is also slightly brighter than the 5691 but a lot more closed in hence I would prefer this to the 5691 if using a DAC like the Wavedream so some careful matching needs to be considered to get that 
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Toonartist
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I agree with that.The VEGA has a big, deep soundstage...not the biggest out there but certainly bigger than the TT2 I had. For a lot of combinations / genres the 5691 is perfect but I have noticed some combos the music feels a bit stretched. When I popped in the ECC35 it took some adjusting too but the stage became more spherical and the imaging 3d and precise. More natural in those instances. Also plumped up the bass and texture.I think the input tube selection of choice varies with the DAC you're using. If you're using a DAC that stages far and wide (e.g. Rockna Wavedream), having a 5691 Red Base on the input can push the presentation too diffused. The target for me is to get a wrap-around holographic soundstage without it being too diffused or too closed in. 6SU7GTY is also slightly brighter than the 5691 but a lot more closed in hence I would prefer this to the 5691 if using a DAC like the Wavedream so some careful matching needs to be considered to get that
I have the 5691's back in at the moment listening to some EDM, trance etc and they'll be hard to beat for those. Finding two input tubes that offer very different presentations is certainly useful to have if you like a varied mix of genres etc.
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You can also shape the sound with the output and rectifier tubes. You are not just stuck with the input tube and your DAC's signature, when trying to shape the sound.I think the input tube selection of choice varies with the DAC you're using. If you're using a DAC that stages far and wide (e.g. Rockna Wavedream), having a 5691 Red Base on the input can push the presentation too diffused. The target for me is to get a wrap-around holographic soundstage without it being too diffused or too closed in. 6SU7GTY is also slightly brighter than the 5691 but a lot more closed in hence I would prefer this to the 5691 if using a DAC like the Wavedream so some careful matching needs to be considered to get that
Toonartist
Formerly known as dAndis67
The DAC just gives you a different starting point. At least that's what I assumed he meant... Mix and match all three tube types to suit your preferences and headphones. So many ways to achieve the perfect (preferred) sound.
Yep, lots of variables and options to play with, and that's why I love tube amps. Get a good DAC, and then roll on until you find your sound. Coming at it from 3 different angles (output, input, and rectifier), certainly gives one enough options to get there.
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Got my Fivre 807 today, you can tell how new the tube is from the non-yellowed stamps.
Had to let them run in, but initial impressions are detailed and "clean", a bit less meat on the bone than says the el39 or el156 - but the way they present background/ambient cues are very addictive.
Also I did not know the anode cap on 807 is much bigger than the el38/el39
Had to let them run in, but initial impressions are detailed and "clean", a bit less meat on the bone than says the el39 or el156 - but the way they present background/ambient cues are very addictive.
Also I did not know the anode cap on 807 is much bigger than the el38/el39
Toonartist
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I just received the adapters today... as you say, the cap is double the size of the ones on the EL38 & EL39's. They'll be the last adapters I'll receive from xulingmrsGot my Fivre 807 today, you can tell how new the tube is from the non-yellowed stamps.
Had to let them run in, but initial impressions are detailed and "clean", a bit less meat on the bone than says the el39 or el156 - but the way they present background/ambient cues are very addictive.
Also I did not know the anode cap on 807 is much bigger than the el38/el39
They look very nice tubes indeed... mint condition! I'll be interested to hear how they compare to the EL38!
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I just received the adapters today... as you say, the cap is double the size of the ones on the EL38 & EL39's. They'll be the last adapters I'll receive from xulingmrs
They look very nice tubes indeed... mint condition! I'll be interested to hear how they compare to the EL38!
I don't have an 807 tubes at the moment, but I snuck in an order for xulingmrs adapters just to make sure.
Toonartist
Formerly known as dAndis67
Same here... none for now but maybe next month. I think I may have used up all my tube purchase tokens this month
My Aegis got stuck in customs duo to a missing mail address, I hope it will be delivered tomorrow.
Did anyone had any experience with Wathen Audiophile’s CryoTone™ tubes?
Did anyone had any experience with Wathen Audiophile’s CryoTone™ tubes?
jonathan c
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.....Same here... none for now but maybe next month. I think I may have used up all my tube purchase tokens this month
Pharmaboy
Headphoneus Supremus
OK, there's an idea: slot machines that gush pricey NOS tubes when you hit the jackpot......
(I'd work that machine like a gummint mule)
