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Originally posted by bkelly
MacDEF,
Agreeably the "590's are flawed in their own way". My point is that their flaws are noticeably less than the 600's. |
Which is your opinion, and nothing more. I, and many other people, disagree.
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I disagree about the mids being better on the 600's. They are bigger and more lifelike on the 590's. |
Again, your opinion, while I and many others disagree.
The key word here is "opinion."
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As far as whether or not the 590's are "decompressing" (I assume by this you mean providing more detail and dynamics than are actually on the recording) |
No, I was simply joking that if the HD 600 are "compressing" the music due to your perceived lack of detail in them, then the excessive brightness of the HD 590 must mean they are "decompressing" music. It was a joke about both being inaccurate.
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It is possible that the 590's are just giving you the facts but you don't like it, anyway. |
Wish it were true.
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You really need to go back and read some of this stuff again because, once again, you are taking your reactions to my comments and recasting them as my opinions. |
There's no "once again" because there was no "first time." I apologize for saying "when you said" when I meant to refer to what you said the "engineer" said. However, let's be honest here: after I disputed that "engineer's" position on Grados in studio environments, you disputed what I wrote, so it's not too far off to say that I was disputing your position as well. But this is silly. Let's just discuss the topics rather than discussing the discussion semantics.
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A great example is how you have taken my comment the "There is no real need for headphone accuracy in a recording environment" and even though you reprinted that you rephrased it to say that I said that "There's no need for accuracy in the recording environment". |
*sigh* You know what I meant. So change "accuracy" to "headphone accuracy." That's what I meant, and I think most people read it that way, considering that I
quoted you immediately above. If I had taken it out of context with no reference to the original, maybe I could see someone being confused.
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my opinions have have been presented here with very strong arguments based on what I know to be facts. |
See, that's the problem. Your arguments about these headphones are nothing but your
opinions. We all have them, but you're presenting yours as facts, and claiming that they are based on other facts, when they're based on nothing but your own preferences and opinions. Which is why I'm responding. Other people like the HD 590 better than the HD 600, and that's cool. But they say "I like the HD 590 better." You say "the HD 590 are better because they're FAR more accurate than the HD 600" etc. and try to tell people who disagree that they aren't hearing right or don't like accuracy. Which not only isn't "factually" true, it's not even the opinion of most listeners.
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In your next response please state your experience with these two phones. Have you owned both of them and listened to them side by side for a week or more. I have. Taphil has also and although he prefers the 600 he likes both of them and his overall opinion of the 590's is positive. Read his comments. |
Great for Taphil and for you. I'm glad you've found that you personally like the HD 590 better than the HD 600. Seriously. Just stop trying to claim that "factually" they're "far more accurate" than the HD 600, which you can't support, especially when the HD 600 are in a very good system with cables that don't choke them.
As for me, while I've never owned the HD 590, I've heard them quite extensively. And I have a pretty good deal of experience with plenty of headphones and headphone systems (see my profile to see what I've owned, and I've auditioned a heck of a lot more).