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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The Wii shouldn't even be mentioned with the PS3/360. It's not a 'next gen' console in the power, technical sense..
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In the technical sense? How so? Sony's pitiful motion sensing compared to Wii's brilliance here (and their recent upgrade just obliterates everything else) or the lack of Xbox's completely? Gfx isn't everything. I have a computer that can power a small country. If I want gfx, the PS3 and the XBOX are shamed. Completely shamed. They were shamed the second they hit the market. Is it fair to compare? Yes it is because on tech specs alone, we can all whip it out and put it on the table and claim whose is faster. But you know what? There was no innovation from Sony or MS. More horsepower that was it. Nintendo turned the gaming industry on its head and there is no more realistic FPS experience than with the Wiimote. This is why RE4 is so highly regarded, the Wii version above all others, because that game got it right, it felt right and that was during Gears and Halo. RE4 was ranked above those because it was simply stellar gaming experience even though the gfx were already dated when they hit the Wii.
The future is going to be a combination of Wiimote tech + horsepower. The horsepower part was a breeze, any off the shelf parts and a pimply tween can throw a box together. Nintendo pushed the boundaries.
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| Still no DD 5.1. Online games are still lacking.. The Wii is great for the casual crowd, and those 'intimidated' by gaming machines... These are geared towards 'kids', as M rated games on the Wii sell poorly. |
Yes you got that right. But you also left out hardcore gamers, and by that I mean real hardcore gamers (and you should fall in that place because you are even older than I) but not the FPS squads. Those folks aren't hardcore, they are one trick ponies. Real hardcore gamers want to be challenged with new experiences in the interface. HCI is as important blood and gore and realism. The Wii was marketed towards EVERYONE instead of targeting 12-24 year old boys.
And you know what? They won. They destroyed everyone and you know what else? All that money gets pumped into the next system which will likely be more powerful than what PS4 or Xbox 720 can muster. Why? Because the loss leading can't happen forever so the best they will do is attempt to copy what Nintendo did with the Wii and won't be able to push forward with even better tech.
I have the PS3 games, I have the PC games and I have the Wii games. I go for it all from VERY kid friendly to over-the-top adult gore. Again, even though the graphics on the PS3 (or ever better, on the PC) are more realistic, they aren't always more beautiful. The teams for Nintendo and the like are using lighting and imagination in ways that game companies developing for the Xbox and PS3 are appear to be stuck in the dark ages. Sure, rendering to be more life-like is cool and all, but when everyone else is doing it, it is boring, it isn't exciting in the least and it sure isn't innovation, it is merely typical Moore's law being applied.
What the Wii did was open up the world of gaming to everyone, so your point below stands well. From anyone looking in, Nintendo did well. They made a mint and became the RICHEST COMPANY IN JAPAN! Damn. Yeah, all with a single product.
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| On a marketing stand point, Nintendo hit the ball out of the park. The Wii is much more profitable then the PS3/360. I do admire Nintendo for making a console that is first and formost a gaming machine. MS/Sony what their machines to be a multi media hub, and to be the center piece of your HT system.. I mean.. A swiss army knife. This turns off the majority of people who are not tech savy, and just want to play a game, and be as user friendly as possible. |
Or want to save money without paying for add-ons, kinda like what this thread is about. So many didn't want to pay the premiums of the PS3 because they just wanted to game, so they went with an Xbox if those games tickled their fancy. For Nintendo, they went one step further, reinvented the gaming experience itself and figured, we'll catch up on graphics later. Best move they could have made. Sony meanwhile is nearly bankrupt.
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| A lot of people don't know the difference between DD 5.1 and 1080p.. And to be honest, don't care.. The Wii is made for this large segment of the population. |
No. The Wii is not MADE for this segment. I care about those things too for instance, but I don't have a HD tv yet, so all the goodies are lost on me. Still, the PS3 means that once I get one, I enjoy my games in the best way possible. DD 5.1 would have been nice with the Wii, true, but how many have a 5.1 system? Not as many as one would think and many won't have the gaming box hooked up to it but will reserve that as the family tv/movie setup and junior with his video game fetish is stuck in a second room, usually the bedroom these days on a smaller tv with no 5.1.
For me, I have a 30" computer monitor that shames all HD tvs and if I was lusting after the goodies that much I could hook the PS3 it up to that. Frankly, bling died on me when I hit 13. If the game is clunky, if the story is abysmal, I get irritated. I'll forgo the last bit of flash for a game that is immersible. So will the true hardcore gamers who look to Mega Man 9 as one of the best games ever and realize that their 1337 skillz are really going to be challenged here and not with head hunting with some suped up sniper rifle while listening with headphones and watching on the 60" HD.
I'm not trying to crap on people who enjoy that style of gaming but it is a single form and it is very limited and repetitive. For folks like me who have been at it since Pong, revisiting old systems can be far more (and often is far more) entertaining than modern games which are just a rehashing of buddy competitor's last year's hit. One game that floored me with originality was Little Big Planet. It has been a LONG time since something so cool hit the shelves. Probably not since Mr. Mario hit the 64.
