MikoLayer
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I have given up on trying to tell people how it isn't that easy to mess up windows as long as you exercise common practice. Periodic ghosting is what I thought was gonna work, but no, they are just too lazy and unmotivated to bring themselves to learn that little.
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I don't trust the windows update's video card driver suggestions, not as much as straight from Ati or Nvidia. On one occasion it managed to mess up my textures. Nothing a quick run of drivercleaner could not fix, just that I wouldn't be using it for something as potenially unstable and volatile as GPU driver. Same goes for getting analog-out to send output thru the wolfson dac on av710; you cannot get that done with just the driver set supplied by windows update. For most everything though, things work well enough. If I am dealing with a non-gaming machine, then I wouldn't have any issues with vga drivers either way.
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Thanks for the link, I knew about the security through obscurity thing, but now I have something I can shove in my mac elitists friend's face when he goes "oh, but OSX is secure... "
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Let's get the facts straight here, you were the one that attacked the people 'on the other side' and contributed to what you call a flame war (maybe you just wanted to start one). This is not the only thread I have seen you post something deliberately provocative, but that's fine by me. I hope you are at least getting some kick out of it
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So Mac by itself is not perfect. When you need to step outside its boundaries (gaming **cough cough**), it is immensely inferior to PC counterparts while costing up to a few times more. Not everyone likes to game on consoles. Dualbooting is very tedious, I would wager anyone, I mean anyone would prefer a VM for trivial tasks. Why bother with dualbooting when VMs could get everything you would have wanted? On my vista / 7 installations, I am free to run ubuntu / xp in my vbox whenever situation calls for it. Good luck trying to emulate that on your OSX
My 7 RTM has an uptime of a few weeks or longer unless I have enough essential updates accumulated, or need to swap out / add hardware. Rebooting is a chore and time consuming, why bother?
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Not entirely sure about that, I dont' do much maintainig on my windows 7 box, certainly 1/100th as much time as I needed on my ubuntu just to get the damn tv card / samba share / VLC working right. I must wonder, just what do you do on windows?
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Sorry about the trouble you been having with windows, I guess they just can't make everyone happy. Lucky me, I never had so much grief with it.
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For every million that you quote, I am willing to bet there are couple more millions that would be happy with windows. Give them any variant of linux, and I am sure it won't take long for them bitch about it just as much, if not more.
I can't stand the OSX UI either, it makes me feel limited and claustrophobic. My mom has used Windows computers for over ten years and is still terrified of them. She messes them up on a regular basis. She's messed up a Mac maybe once. I don't trust her in Windows so to speak. Most users don't try learning what they're doing before they do it in my experience, and therein lies the problem. |
I have given up on trying to tell people how it isn't that easy to mess up windows as long as you exercise common practice. Periodic ghosting is what I thought was gonna work, but no, they are just too lazy and unmotivated to bring themselves to learn that little.
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every driver installed out of the box on my laptop and the drivers get updated through Windows Update. Everything except my sound card was working out of the box on my desktop, even my graphics drivers were the 'real deal' instead of the basic VESA drivers in XP and Vista |
I don't trust the windows update's video card driver suggestions, not as much as straight from Ati or Nvidia. On one occasion it managed to mess up my textures. Nothing a quick run of drivercleaner could not fix, just that I wouldn't be using it for something as potenially unstable and volatile as GPU driver. Same goes for getting analog-out to send output thru the wolfson dac on av710; you cannot get that done with just the driver set supplied by windows update. For most everything though, things work well enough. If I am dealing with a non-gaming machine, then I wouldn't have any issues with vga drivers either way.
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Actually you should check out the latest pwn2own results. Apparently OSX fell in seconds |
Thanks for the link, I knew about the security through obscurity thing, but now I have something I can shove in my mac elitists friend's face when he goes "oh, but OSX is secure... "
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Anyway, I guess it is this time of the month again. Mac vs. PC flame war! |
Let's get the facts straight here, you were the one that attacked the people 'on the other side' and contributed to what you call a flame war (maybe you just wanted to start one). This is not the only thread I have seen you post something deliberately provocative, but that's fine by me. I hope you are at least getting some kick out of it
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Indeed! But if Mac OS X do not allow you to perform a certain task then you can use MS Windows or whatever to perform this task. Read the text I replied to as well, then my answer. |
So Mac by itself is not perfect. When you need to step outside its boundaries (gaming **cough cough**), it is immensely inferior to PC counterparts while costing up to a few times more. Not everyone likes to game on consoles. Dualbooting is very tedious, I would wager anyone, I mean anyone would prefer a VM for trivial tasks. Why bother with dualbooting when VMs could get everything you would have wanted? On my vista / 7 installations, I am free to run ubuntu / xp in my vbox whenever situation calls for it. Good luck trying to emulate that on your OSX
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Windows - when I ran it - needed loads of maintenance. Maybe if you're a student with lots of free time or a Microsoft admin you can devote the time to keeping Windows running. If you're working 70-90 hours a week and trying to maintain a life, scrubbing Windows clean is a monumental waste of time. |
Not entirely sure about that, I dont' do much maintainig on my windows 7 box, certainly 1/100th as much time as I needed on my ubuntu just to get the damn tv card / samba share / VLC working right. I must wonder, just what do you do on windows?
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And don't blame me for not "knowing" enough to handle Windows. I learned to run Linux from knowing nothing about it in 2002 and have mucked with computers for the better part of 30 years. It's the same reason I don'town an unreliable car that needs to be tweaked and repaired every day or two just so I can drive to work. |
Sorry about the trouble you been having with windows, I guess they just can't make everyone happy. Lucky me, I never had so much grief with it.
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If Microsoft wants to overcome the immense ill will of millions, they need to do something extraordinary |
For every million that you quote, I am willing to bet there are couple more millions that would be happy with windows. Give them any variant of linux, and I am sure it won't take long for them bitch about it just as much, if not more.