[Elluzion]

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Originally Posted by Nuwidol /img/forum/go_quote.gif You can hear absolutely no difference with either phone? Not even a bit of extra oomph in the low end or a tad extra sparkle at the top? Burn in maybe? Congrats on your next post too

yay 1000! w00t.

Well, i haven't burned in my tripple fi's yet, and i am not sure if the viper is burned in or not. i forgot , i am not the first owner. When i get home i will do some A to B Comparison.

i'll listen for the extra sparkle or umph... but i am still working on getting better isolation with the tripples, its lacking a bit and i think it is affecting the sound. This might be the problem, because i get a decent seal but i can still hear the outside world (very well) i recently ordered some new tips so i will see if they help.

-Elluzion

yay 1000

also, i am using the viper on a "low gain" switch setting.

 

[omendelovitz]

IME, 3fis don't benefit from an amp all that much if at all. Secondly, ipod SQ sucks - Samsung and Cowon portables will sound better.

If your setup is new I'd say this - listen to the amp'd config for 2 weeks and forget about everything. Afterwards, switch to stock config for about 1 week. If you can't tell the difference in SQ, sell the amp

 

[nsx_23]

I find that my SF5s sound less bloated and more detailed when I use an amp with them, but I haven't heard the 3's before, so I can't say too much on that.

 

[krmathis]

Listen closer.

 

[Elluzion]

Yeah i will just have to do some A/B comparison and see what i come up with. I am very curious to try other amps though

its that addiction inside

what about using a home amp with my triple fi's, or is that a waste????? that is an option

 

[arande2]

Try an ABX comparator instead of simple A/B

You don't know what you're listening to except by how it sounds and you have to guess

 

[subfocus]

Try another DAP.

To my ears , the 5.5g Ipod that I own just doesn't cut it with the Triple-fi's..... even using the line-out and a decent portable amp.

Change your DAP and you'll start to hear what the Triples are capable of sounding like.

Adding an amp to the mix would then give you (potentially) a slight sonic benefit to the improved SQ.
That you may (or may not) feel is worthwhile.

 

[Elladan]

Be aware, too, that the line-out on the iPod is not really a line out (i.e., an output that cuts out the internal amplifier). It's just a somewhat cleaner circuit path that bypasses EQ circuitry and the noisy HO. In fact, it's quite taxing for the iPod's amp, in that it's got it cranking at max volume. My Zune sounds better amped through the HO than any iPod I've ever heard, LO or not.

 

[Elluzion]

yeah i would like to try another DAP, but they are a bit pricey and my ipod 5.5gen isn't worth that much resale value ya know. BUT, i could sell my amp and get a new DAP, but then i would still have my ipod....

cowon d2?

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Try an ABX comparator instead of simple A/B You don't know what you're listening to except by how it sounds and you have to guess

what do you mean by ABX?



Update: I did some A/B listening, its a little hard switcching back and forth cause i have to unplug my headphone jack and keep swapping it. but the amp does open the midrange a bit, but for $200 lol. an amp is not worth it.

 

[Suntory_Times]

You could always have you're ipod imoded, that will cause a huge difference to SQ.

 

[Oya?]

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Originally Posted by Elluzion /img/forum/go_quote.gif what do you mean by ABX?

ABX test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For our purposes it's a double blind test that can be used to show that a listener can/can't discern differences between speakers, amps etc. Most commonly you'll find it being used for MP3 and lossy file encoders, and in cable 'debates'. ABX is always better than plain A/B because it eliminates placebo and bias.

It's a bit of a hassle to double blind test something like DAP vs DAP/amp; you can use specialised hardware, but you can also get a friend to help. For example, you can have him blindfold you, level the volume of the DAP/no amp and DAP/amp so that they are equal (or as close as humanly possible), and then have him switch back and forth randomly. You'd then try to guess which one is unamped, amped etc.

 

[analogbox]

I can hear the difference between using my triple.fi/ipod/move combo and triple.fi/ipod headphone-out combo. The most noticeable change was the bass. It turned from uncontrolled bass to less prominent/controlled bass. Could it be that your D2 has same sonic characteristics as ipod's own?