Voltage splitting, VAC and Vrms....confused!
Apr 8, 2007 at 1:50 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 4

sejarzo

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Because quite a few of us 0404 USB owners have wondered about the adequacy of the 5 VDC switching power supply for the unit and what improvements might be possible, I did a little experiment (so that's why I am posting in the DIY forum, sorry if that't not 100% right!)

I connected an old pair of Signet TK22's to the 0404's headphone output jack, after unscrewing the barrel to expose the connections. I clipped one DMM lead to a signal tap, the other to the common. Put a test CD in my PC's drive and played it via Foobar's "play audio CD" option, using the ASIO driver and no other Foobar options enabled (meaning, I think, that there should have been no gain applied in any way.) Each test tone is clearly announced, and when the 1 kHz test tone played at 0 dBFS, the meter reading was "off scale high" when set for 2 VAC; it measured 2.09 VAC on the 20 VAC range setting. The -14 dBFS tone read 0.58 VAC.

I thought that a (nominal) 5 VDC supply would have been split to provide a +2.5 VDC rail and a -2.5 VDC rail. From what I understand of VAC measurements, a DMM would normally read out the rms value of the AC voltage.......which is the peak voltage divided by 1.414 for a sine wave AC waveform (right?)

If that is the case, I presumed that the highest Vrms output that could be supplied from a split 5 VDC source would have been (2.5/1.414) or 1.77 Vrms if the amp section ran rail-to-rail.....which I wouldn't expect.

I do know that my cheap-o meter reads exactly the same as a friend's Fluke on ~120VAC house current when we compared them a couple of years ago, too--but whether that comparison remains valid for all VAC ranges, I have no idea.

Side note: I had assumed that the 0404 USB supplied the 48V phantom voltage on the mic inputs via a tiny transformer to step up the 5 V input.....but at such a low current requirement, I presumed that would be simple, whereas the headamp section would (I presume again?) simply run on the supply voltage as is.

Any explanations for what I am seeing? Is my understanding of split voltages versus VAC/Vrms way off?
 
Apr 8, 2007 at 4:33 AM Post #2 of 4
Your analysis is reasonable. It's very likely that the 0404 USB employs some sort of voltage-multiplying regulator circuit to supply its internal opamps, which would explain why you're seeing more output voltage than expected from just a 5VDC supply.
 
Apr 8, 2007 at 1:29 PM Post #3 of 4
Am I thus correct in assuming that any internal DC step-up circuitry could (or definitely would?) just dirty up a cleaner input voltage from a linear supply vs. the supplied switching unit?
 
Apr 8, 2007 at 2:18 PM Post #4 of 4
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Am I thus correct in assuming that any internal DC step-up circuitry could (or definitely would?) just dirty up a cleaner input voltage from a linear supply vs. the supplied switching unit?


Not necessarily. It depends on how the circuit is implemented. Without a schematic diagram it would be hard to guess, and only through some rigorous testing could one arrive at any conclusion.
 

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