[fenixdown110]

I stand corrected then.

 

[momomo6789]

nope still no ds in win7 with those drivers.

 

[fenixdown110]

That's perhaps compatibility for bit-exact output.

 

[tosehee]

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenixdown110 /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's perhaps compatibility for bit-exact output.

No.

DS in 64bit requires the certification from MS, and that's really costly. That's why m2tech is not going that route.

 

[punk_guy182]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosehee /img/forum/go_quote.gif No. DS in 64bit requires the certification from MS, and that's really costly. That's why m2tech is not going that route.

What!?!?!? You have to pay a tax to Microsoft in order to have certified drivers?
That's just not helping anyone except themselves by making profits and controling the market.
This whole driver issue about the HiFace or other gear is not helping IMO.
I wish technology could evolve faster without having the trouble to depend on complex rules in order to have a fully functioning program or device.

 

[tosehee]

punk-guy182.

That's just from the horse's mouth. I asked why there is no DS for 64bit, and that's what I got from Marco from m2tech.

I actually do not know for certain whether that's true and why.

 

[momomo6789]

lol i already lost faith in them after it took 45 days for them to ship.

anyways i installed windows xp mode and have ds in that only need for watching movies and such anyways

 

[Andrew_WOT]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosehee /img/forum/go_quote.gif No. DS in 64bit requires the certification from MS, and that's really costly. That's why m2tech is not going that route.

I don't see DS option or HiFace as auido device in control panel in 32 bit Vista either. Guess it's just OS related and DS works only in XP.

 

[Sieg9198]

so basically only KS is usable in Windows 7??

If that's true and they(M2tech) do not have the intention to provide DS support in the future. The hiFace would be pretty much useless with a Windows 7 system

 

[momomo6789]

found a good fix use realtek -> mini -> rca -> pheonix , then hiface -> dac -> pheonix.

 

[punk_guy182]

Quote:

Originally Posted by momomo6789 /img/forum/go_quote.gif found a good fix use realtek -> mini -> rca -> pheonix , then hiface -> dac -> pheonix.

I'm not sure I understand your fix. Can you elaborate?

 

[fenixdown110]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg9198 /img/forum/go_quote.gif so basically only KS is usable in Windows 7?? If that's true and they(M2tech) do not have the intention to provide DS support in the future. The hiFace would be pretty much useless with a Windows 7 system

I think you can use another bit-exact output such as ASIO or wasapi, but that's only when running foobar. Does that mean that system sounds and everything else outside of foobar has no sound due to lack of drivers?

 

[momomo6789]

lol their is no fix just using onboard for ds.

i made a 3.5mm -> L/R RCA so i just switch between 1 and 3 on the amp for ds and the hiface.
so
DS->realtek>mini->rca->phoenix select 1
Hiface->bnc-bnc->Re1->phoenix select 3

 

[doctorcilantro]

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackman /img/forum/go_quote.gif As for the Musiland. I've never heard it but I read that though it does do async usb, it has a terrible clock that is never 44.1 or 48 / 88.2 / 96, but allways a % off. I wouldn't want such a thing as a source myself. Also in another thread the hiFace compared favourably to the Musiland.

Can you source where you heard this. I;m thinking of buying a HiFace or Musiland for my new EE DAC>Raptor.

thanks!
Jon

 

[doctorcilantro]

I'm confused at the fetish for DirectSound, what about ASIO4ALL?