Thoughts on a bunch of DACs (and why delta-sigma kinda sucks, just to get you to think about stuff)
Aug 8, 2014 at 12:52 PM Post #1,246 of 6,500
  You mean like mono? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 
I would say the opposite: very left and right.
I, too, was disappointed with the Hugo, coming from the quteHD. I think the tonality shift is not good for my bright/airy headphones (Hifiman, HD-800, blabla).
 
I received my exchanged Hugo at work yesterday morning. It didn't take me long to figure I preferred the sound of the Dangerous Source over the Hugo with the RE262...
 
So much for the biggest breakthrough in the DAC world...
 
Aug 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM Post #1,247 of 6,500
This is why I got in trouble on the Hugo thread
I said what you said. I also have a DS ITS Much better than a Hugo
But still not S good as my lampi B7 or MSB PLATINUM.
what can I say at least others are understanding
Al
 
Aug 8, 2014 at 1:33 PM Post #1,248 of 6,500
This is why I got in trouble on the Hugo thread
I said what you said. I also have a DS ITS Much better than a Hugo
But still not S good as my lampi B7 or MSB PLATINUM.
what can I say at least others are understanding
Al

 
You don't need to be a crowd pleaser, Al 
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. With all the gears you have, you already have some sort of "natural authority" over many many head-fier who could only dream to listen to what you actually own.
 
Now, will you tell us the truth about Hugo vs Master-7? 
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Aug 8, 2014 at 3:24 PM Post #1,249 of 6,500
Originally Posted by Clemmaster /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Now, will you tell us the truth about Hugo vs Master-7? 
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AL uses it as portable when on trains in NY. It looks like a $29 Fisher Price toy, so he don't get mugged. They take his wallet, his Beats, and leave the Hugo.
 
Aug 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM Post #1,251 of 6,500
No beats. I use the a few CIEMS.
And it does look stupid as well. What can say
To
Much hype and not enough pay off.
This is why u stay away for te chord thread.
If one more person tells me how great it is
K get band with my reply.
So I stay a way. And the messiah called rib watts
Walks on water and hates DSD
And thu is why the PCM is as good or better than the DSD
How can they pay him to make a product that is based on his view.
Try to find his reply to my question of analog.
He said basically that analog is bloated bass lousy dynamics and distorted
The guy needs to retire or get out if audio.
Do you guys know that Q DAC he made did not play DSD at all but if course the usael suspects liked it.
He got so much flack tha he made a new firmware to at DSD for it.
He us just out there with a teather so he just floats on his own concepts

I had. A fellow headfi friend over to hear some stuff I have.
He could not beleave how bad the DSD was on the Hugo.
Regarding the M7 against the Hugo. They are very far apart
In sound so a fair assessment as to what us better is really not possible to
Do by me
 
Aug 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM Post #1,252 of 6,500
Hey guys, apparently the Fisher Price dap is $738...
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http://www.amazon.com/Fisher-Price-Kid-Tough-Music-Player-Microphone/dp/B00388DLIO
 
Aug 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM Post #1,255 of 6,500
As we buy stuff at rediculas prices in this hobby I get it. But who would buy that at all
We can buy a card for ten bucks and it records for 30 seconds more than enough for a child
 
Aug 9, 2014 at 1:31 AM Post #1,257 of 6,500
This is why I got in trouble on the Hugo thread
I said what you said. I also have a DS ITS Much better than a Hugo
But still not S good as my lampi B7 or MSB PLATINUM.
what can I say at least others are understanding
Al

Given their price tags, I certainly hope those other DACs you mention are better than one that cost $2.5K, regardless of Watt brand it is.  
 
if I remember correctly, when you bought the Hugo, you said you didn't expect it to be better than the DS, so I don't understand why you're so disappointed about it, since it turns out your hunch was correct. But if it were me and I hated a piece of kit so much, I'd get rid of it.  Life is too short.
 
BTW, I know what you mean about fanboys and the Hugo thread, that's the same reason I stay away from the PSA threads & website as well as threads that attract chocolate ice cream lovers 
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Sep 2, 2014 at 12:27 PM Post #1,259 of 6,500
I respect everyone's right to openly express their opinion about products, but it is obvious to anyone without an axe-to-grind about the Hugo, that this thread is proactively anti-Hugo.
 
I won't mince my words: it makes me wary.   I'm cool with people expressing negative opinions about gear I like, and, likewise, I occasionally express negative opinions about some products, too.
 
No product is perfect, and the Hugo is no exception, but to compare it to DACs and amps several times as big, and some of them considerably more expensive, hardly seems appropriate.
 
 
Head-fi is one of the largest specialist websites for headphone-related-audio in the world, but, impressive though it's traffic throughput may be, it can be easy to become myopic when visiting this microcosm.
 
We have a thread here with a relatively small number of people expressing how inadequate they feel the Hugo to be. In the personal experience of these few people, they may be sincere in feeling it falls short of their expectations.
 
But what is being overlooked is how many hundreds of people around the world are thoroughly appreciating the extraordinary performance the Hugo has brought to the market, in such a compact and portable form. I don't consider Chord's marketing of the Hugo to be bombastic, either.
 
What is also being overlooked is that the Hugo is being appreciated not just by headphone-focused customers, but also by some users of fullsize hi-fi systems costing substantially more than the most glamorous desktop headphone-centric gear.
 
Frankly, to slate the Hugo in comparison to desktop gear, and then flippantly concede, in a couple of throw-away words, that it is more portable, is potentially misleading to folks who are new to this market segment. They may understandably read the negative remarks and focus upon them, rather than noticing the fact that apples are being compared to oranges in a tone that implies that apples are being compared to apples. I'm sure some will be keen to quickly counter this viewpoint by pointing out exceptions, but, overall, the point legitimately stands.
 
I have absolutely no affiliation to Chord, and I respect (and support) everyone's right to free speech and constructive criticism. However, I have experienced the Hugo, and consider it a damn decent product which, whilst not exactly cheap, offers excellent performance in a remarkably portable (and very flexible) package. And Fisher Price toys aren't made from diecast magnesium, last I checked...
 
Criticism is one thing, but comparing apples to oranges and crusading from that dubious foundation does no one any favours.
 
I'm not being personal, with any of this; I'm simply pointing out how this thread comes across to those of us without an axe-to-grind about the Hugo.
 
Sep 2, 2014 at 12:30 PM Post #1,260 of 6,500

 
In short, I agree with you. Yes, Chord is a good portable device. It does not quite compare with good desktop DACs and it obviously has some limitations.
 

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