[Moonhead]

Roger that

 

[negura]

In a less than subtle comparison with dynamic headphones:
The 009s are what Sennheiser wish the HD800s would have been. But perhaps that's why they're working on an electrostatic flagship. The SR007s in terms of sound signature are the superhero ancestor of Hifiman and Audeze.

 

[davidsh]

Sennheiser working on a stat.. Isn't that just a rumour that has been running for years?

 

[Moonhead]

Well in some ways i felt LCD3 sounded more natural that HD800, IMO.
007 Might be what Im lookin for

 

[eric65]

 
 
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Originally Posted by Moonhead /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
 
Seems lige the differences between 007 and 009 and quite subtle! 
 
 
Originally Posted by gepardcv /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
 
Not subtle at all, in my opinion. I've compared them on a KGSSHV and on a BHSE. They don't sound similar at all. The HD800 is closer to the 009, but not quite at the same level. The 007 is quite dark compared to the 009. Comparing the two side-by-side isn't even fair to the 007, as it sounds downright muffled.

 
+1
 
Not subtle at all, in my opinion (also). I've compared them on a RKV-II amp + Verto. They don't sound similar at all. 
The SR-007 mk3 (SR-007 mk2 with blocked vent) is quite dark compared to the SR-009. 
Comparing the two side-by-side isn't even fair to the 007, as it sounds downright muffled.
The sound of the 009 is much clearer and readable than 007.

 

[wink]

Doesn't mean it's not true.
 
Word on the ground is it will be ready for Sennheiser's 70th anniversary in 2015.
 
They were founded in June 1 1945.

 

[gepardcv]

Well in some ways i felt LCD3 sounded more natural that HD800, IMO.
007 Might be what Im lookin for

 
Quite likely. I thought the SR-007 is rather like the LCD3 done right, though, to be fair, I never compared them side-by-side. I'm rather biased, as I'm not fond of the Audeze house sound, whereas I really like Stax (and Sennheiser).

 

[Michgelsen]

Sennheiser working on a stat.. Isn't that just a rumour that has been running for years?

 
Yes, it has been running for years, even before the HD800 was out. But maybe, they have indeed been working on a stat for all those years...
 
 

  To me cymbals doesn't sound right on 009, actually better on HD800, maybe 007 will be perfect! 

 
I can't say how the cymbals will sound to you via the 007, but something that's typical of the SR-007mk1 is that it has, generally speaking, a recessed midrange AND recessed highs (but it's not overly bassy, so I wonder what's left?), yet it has a peak around 10 kHz that seems to give the impression that there are more highs than there actually are. It works, but it's still a peak that can sometimes distract a little bit, though it's not in an annoying part of the frequency spectrum for most people. For example, it cannot be compared to the infamous Lambda etch. Still, all headphones have their peaks I guess. The SR-007mk1 is a very real sounding pair of headphones, but the highs are technically a bit less neutral, yet still good sounding luckily. To me, cymbals sound very real.
 
Maybe some people don't even notice the 10 kHz peak, as I've not seen it mentioned many times. The opposite in fact: people often compliment the SR-007mk1 on its smooth highs. I can only partially agree with that. At least the quantity of the highs is not too much; a common flaw of other headphones unfortunately.
 
 

  For dynamics the HD800 has impressive technical ability, but compared to Stax I just don't think it compares at all.

 
I completely agree. I recently auditioned an HD800 again (second time), but found the gap between it and Stax unacceptably large. Going back to the HD800 or any dynamic, you loose too much of the incredible clarity and cleanliness of stats.

 

[georgep]

Just a general comment on the 007 as it would be more useful if people indicated which one they are talking about as there are at least 3 that sound very different from one another - mk1 (and there are about three versions, debateable as to which is best), mk2 (with sz2 serial) and mk2 (with sz3 serial, also referred to as the mk2.5). The mk2.5 is the least desirable of the 3 and port modding it reportedly does not help its sound much (have not had one so can't say 1st hand). On the other hand, port modding and changing the springs on the mk2 sz2 brings it's sound in line with the mk1.

Also, from how Kevin Gilmore describes the functionality of the rkv/verto combo, I would expect the 007 (any version) to sound terrible with it - which is in line with what Eric65 has said.

 

[Moonhead]

Thanks a bunch guys..

Well Im beginning to appreciate or get to known these 009 better.
Only reason for this confusion is money and family relations, so I might keep 009 I might get 007!

Very helpful Michgelsen on 007 and I agree with Paradox too, that HD800 is a dynamic has a very different sound all together, nonetheless technical impressev.

Couldn't play a lot of genres with HD800, can play almost anything on009, don't known about 007.

I guess I just had to let that transparency get under the skin

 

[eric65]

Just a general comment on the 007 as it would be more useful if people indicated which one they are talking about as there are at least 3 that sound very different from one another - mk1 (and there are about three versions, debateable as to which is best), mk2 (with sz2 serial) and mk2 (with sz3 serial, also referred to as the mk2.5). The mk2.5 is the least desirable of the 3 and port modding it reportedly does not help its sound much (have not had one so can't say 1st hand). On the other hand, port modding and changing the springs on the mk2 sz2 brings it's sound in line with the mk1.

Also, from how Kevin Gilmore describes the functionality of the rkv/verto combo, I would expect the 007 (any version) to sound terrible with it - which is in line with what Eric65 has said.

 
I agree that headphone Stax 007 (family) probably sound better with an amp made ​​by Kelvin Gilmore than with my combo. (NB : for the 009, it's a different story: see dedicated post and "my" paintings by Claude Monet http://www.head-fi.org/t/727630/audiovalve-rkv-ii-otl-amp-2014-version-audiovalve-box-adapter-verto-for-stax-headphone-and-for-low-impedance-orthodynamic-eletrodynamic-headphone/150#post_11020997 ). 
With the other amp I know (Stax SRM 727 stock): the association SRM-727 + SR-007mk2 (or mk3) is even worse.

 

[DairyProduce]

Just when I was thinking of buying a 009, Sennheiser's getting ready to come out with another stat? Guess I have to wait a bit longer to see...

 

[arnaud]

And replenish your wallet if it is indeed like 15kUSD...

 

[DairyProduce]

Meh. At that price I'd rather spend my money on something other than headphones

 

[n3rdling]

HD800 is great for videogames, 007/009 are great for music. 
 
The only dynamic I'd put up there with the best electrostats is a very good condition/restored R10, and that's because the mids are so good.