The Stax Thread III
Dec 20, 2013 at 7:16 PM Post #1,171 of 25,627
you could just buy 64 x 9 volt batteries and wire them in series.
would last forever. (shelf life of alkaline about 15 years)
 
Dec 20, 2013 at 7:19 PM Post #1,173 of 25,627
but it's the cleanest supply for the cleanest headphones
 
Dec 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM Post #1,175 of 25,627
My SRD-7 SB only has a single grey cord coming our the back with terminates into four banana plugs in addition to the four binding posts on the rear of the unit.  I agree with the others about the unit scaling very well.  The background is perfectly black and the sound from both my speaker amps is lovely.  I have no desire to try the other STAX amps.
 
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Dec 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM Post #1,176 of 25,627
Where do you get your battery?
9v battery are like a few bucks each down under.
Finally understand what signal is being fed into the headphones....
It is 580vdc for bias, then small signal audio signal on top of it right?
 
Dec 20, 2013 at 9:51 PM Post #1,177 of 25,627
Where do you get your battery?
9v battery are like a few bucks each down under.
Finally understand what signal is being fed into the headphones....
It is 580vdc for bias, then small signal audio signal on top of it right?

Just some variable signal between 0 and some 300-700 volts depending on the amp... Much like normal amps, yet higher voltage.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM Post #1,178 of 25,627
Care to explain how the energiser/adapter units work without a bias supply? Takes speaker signal, ramp up the voltage with a transformer and then... What?

The stax adaptor plugs into the wall.  It converts AC current from the wall to DC 580 volts for the bias. So it does not work without a bias supply.  It IS a bias supply.
 
The stax adaptor also connects to a speaker amplifier.  The audio voltage from the amplifier is put through a step-up transformer that increases the voltage of the audio signal enough to drive the electrostatic headphones.
 
Also, the transformer roughly presents an 8 ohm load to your amplifier and matches it's output to the proper impedance to drive the headphones.
 
In the old days, Koss made some energizers which could convert some of the audio power fed into them into bias, in addition to coupling the audio from the amplifier to the electrostatic headphones, but this is not an ideal way to go.  It's better to convert AC from the power line into the DC bias-  it is more stable, etc.  Maybe some early Stax energizers developed bias from the audio input too, I do not know.  The most commonly seen Stax adapter-  SRD-7 - uses the power line to produce the bias voltage.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 8:42 AM Post #1,179 of 25,627
  about $70 for 64 batteries
not so bad.

Yeah, but where do I buy the teflon-jacketed, oxygen-free silver 9 volt battery clips?  
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Dec 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM Post #1,180 of 25,627
  My SRD-7 SB only has a single grey cord coming our the back with terminates into four banana plugs in addition to the four binding posts on the rear of the unit.  I agree with the others about the unit scaling very well.  The background is perfectly black and the sound from both my speaker amps is lovely.  I have no desire to try the other STAX amps.


I'm with tdogzthmn on this.7-SB with a good power amp sounds as good, sometimes better, than a Stax amp like the T1. Pity I can't get a new 7-SB anywhere.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM Post #1,181 of 25,627
  Yeah, but where do I buy the teflon-jacketed, oxygen-free silver 9 volt battery clips?  
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silly person...
 
you make them.
 
preferably on a 3 axis NC mill. you have one right?
 
oxygen free silver... not for long.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM Post #1,182 of 25,627
Wallmart or Amazon may have them on special soon with NiMH batteries thrown in for free.
 
Happy waiting................
 
Actually, I like phosphor bronze battery clips more than silver.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM Post #1,183 of 25,627
 
silly person...
 
you make them.
 
preferably on a 3 axis NC mill. you have one right?
 
oxygen free silver... not for long.

I do, but it's currently being rewired with Cardas cable and re-capped with Black Gates....
 
The oxygen free silver is no problem, I use high resolution oxygen free air in my listening room.
 
Dec 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM Post #1,185 of 25,627
  Quote:milosz
 
silly person...
 
you make them.
 
preferably on a 3 axis NC mill. you have one right?
 
oxygen free silver... not for long.

I do, but it's currently being rewired with Cardas cable and re-capped with Black Gates....
 
The oxygen free silver is no problem, I use high resolution oxygen free air in my listening room.

 
I see 2 major problems here:-
1/ You should be using Zu cables instead of Cardas, and Auricaps instead of Black Gates.
2/ You need titanium instead of silver cables. Beryllium is better still. The high resolution oxygen free air is problematic for continuance of life. It is strongly suggested that sulfur dioxide is substituted.
Listening to headphones is preferably conducted in a small intimate cubicle where you are not distracted form the sonic experience, and do not offend others with your insular behaviour.
 

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