The Opamp thread
Jan 19, 2015 at 5:06 AM Post #4,816 of 7,383
I bought a couple of LME49710HA for my Titanium HD, I already have LME49720HA for I/V but because of my previous impression the HA is far better than NA so I bought the HA version of 49710 and I'm not disappointed. Indeed it sounds better, no longer sterile on female vocal. Funny that the two different chips on different packaging makes things sounds different
 
Jan 19, 2015 at 3:25 PM Post #4,817 of 7,383
Hi guys,
 
I've tried the MUSES01/02 opamps for my Asus Essence STX II soundcard, thinking of getting the FiiO 12DIY to mess about with as well. Other than the MUSES, people seem to have high regard for the LME49990s, any other opamps worth trying out? There's 2 buffer slots and 1 output slot for the E12DIY that can be configured, if I recall correctly
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 3:56 AM Post #4,818 of 7,383
  I bought a couple of LME49710HA for my Titanium HD, I already have LME49720HA for I/V but because of my previous impression the HA is far better than NA so I bought the HA version of 49710 and I'm not disappointed. Indeed it sounds better, no longer sterile on female vocal. Funny that the two different chips on different packaging makes things sounds different


You can maximize their sound quality, but possibly stop hearing a difference between the two grades, if you gave them better power decoupling capacitors like HDAM users put Mundorf or old Soviet caps on their "discrete" opamps.  You can see all sorts of relevant photos in a google search or Recent Images In This Thread up in the corner of any page of this thread if you are not on a mobile device.  I swear by Vishay MKP1837 film capacitors or WIMA MKP4 if there is not enough room for the bulky Vishays.  Some opamps just need a 0.1uF 50V C0G ceramic capacitor across their power pins for best sound in a given circuit.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 AM Post #4,819 of 7,383
recently mod my ALO the Island. It has slight on warm side, but already great soundstage, particularly the balanced output. the clarity i so so.
the DAC is CS4398 following by NE5532 as LPF and gain stage, while balance driver use SSM2142. 
I tried LT1361 as LPF and I got neat sound, but not as clean as I want. I am going to swap it to lme49720ma, AD8599 on gainstage, or something else.
Anyone can advice me for opamp replacement. I need fatty bass and goes lower as possible without losing clarity.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 5:18 PM Post #4,822 of 7,383
  guys  i wanna know about LME49720NA... is it that great?

 
In the right circuit yes.  And in the wrong one it will overheat enough to cook a steak.
It gets even better with a film cap across its power pins, see this thread's gallery.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:34 AM Post #4,823 of 7,383
For a DIY AMP+DAC, which opamp and DAC chip would you recommend? I'm going for DIY just for fun and learning and also it'll make it very much customizable and modular as per my thought design
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 6:23 AM Post #4,825 of 7,383
  any impression of opa627bm and opa627sm?

Looking at the specs and customer reviews of the OPA627, it does seem to be very very good as an audio op-amp. Although OPA637 has much lower THD+N and might be much more clearer and detailed (pure speculation based on high slew rate, 135 V/uS). The noise >15nV/rHz at 10 HZ and lower that this opamp has might not bother much.
 
I was thinking that is it worth building a complete AMP+DAC combo as DIY or just AMP for now (using Dragonfly as DAC)!
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 6:45 AM Post #4,826 of 7,383
  Looking at the specs and customer reviews of the OPA627, it does seem to be very very good as an audio op-amp. Although OPA637 has much lower THD+N and might be much more clearer and detailed (pure speculation based on high slew rate, 135 V/uS). The noise >15nV/rHz at 10 HZ and lower that this opamp has might not bother much.
 
I was thinking that is it worth building a complete AMP+DAC combo as DIY or just AMP for now (using Dragonfly as DAC)!

because i read online that OPA627BM might be too harsh sounding for some. some commented that the bass might hit too hard and be boomy. so was wondering will there be anyone who had previously used/currently using it share their opinion on it.
 
Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM Post #4,828 of 7,383
  Looking at the specs and customer reviews of the OPA627, it does seem to be very very good as an audio op-amp. Although OPA637 has much lower THD+N and might be much more clearer and detailed (pure speculation based on high slew rate, 135 V/uS). The noise >15nV/rHz at 10 HZ and lower that this opamp has might not bother much.
 
I was thinking that is it worth building a complete AMP+DAC combo as DIY or just AMP for now (using Dragonfly as DAC)!

 
 
  because i read online that OPA627BM might be too harsh sounding for some. some commented that the bass might hit too hard and be boomy. so was wondering will there be anyone who had previously used/currently using it share their opinion on it.


I like the OPA627 in my headphone amp WNA MKII 
k701smile.gif

 
I had test a lot of OPA's before too!
Original 
LM6171, then 
AD843, LME49710, AD847, LT1056, OPA602AP,  LT1022, TLE2071, OPA134 and now OPA627
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/99596/new-wna-mkll-head-amp-kit/720
....
http://www.head-fi.org/t/99596/new-wna-mkll-head-amp-kit/750
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 2:13 AM Post #4,829 of 7,383
   
 

I like the OPA627 in my headphone amp WNA MKII 
k701smile.gif

 
I had test a lot of OPA's before too!
Original 
LM6171, then 
AD843, LME49710, AD847, LT1056, OPA602AP,  LT1022, TLE2071, OPA134 and now OPA627
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/99596/new-wna-mkll-head-amp-kit/720
....
http://www.head-fi.org/t/99596/new-wna-mkll-head-amp-kit/750

So what are your opinions on the sound of these opamps you tested?
 
As of now I've shortlisted following for my DIY AMP+DAC:
- PCM1794A (24-bit 192khZ & 132dB SNR)
- PCM2704C
- OPA827
 
I'd like to evaluate OPA627, OPA637 & OPA1612 as well, but they are not very cheap hence I choose OPA827 & a pair of one of the latter three (probably I'll choose OPA637 or OPA627)
 
Jan 29, 2015 at 11:29 AM Post #4,830 of 7,383
 

Heh, that is good read.
Switching to opamp that does not function the best way in certain circuit can cause that different "sound", noise, distortion.
There might be slight audible differences between JFET and bipolar opamps tho.
Maybe some features such as stereo crosstalk might be audible.
The other features such as THD etc will most likely already be limited by your other hadware (and human hearing) for any audible differences.

I myself have a small smile in my face whenever I read expressions from people about the OP Amp swapping with "wow! I never heard this piano was here!", "this opamp has good bass and this other doesnt", "now i can hear all the small details", "this op amp sounds too harsh and this other sounds warm". :)
 

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