The discovery thread!
Mar 25, 2014 at 11:10 AM Post #23,371 of 100,329
TL;DR: Amazing slightly V sounding headphone that have a better balance, more detail and sound better than the pistons (Oh no he didn't!). Just the highs are to prominent for my liking. 450 Taiwan Dollar = 12 euro.
 
Yesterday I sneaked away from my internship here in Taiwan and went headphone shopping again. 
Because every headphone is just hanging there to demo, I listened to the ones I didn't hear before. I've heard around 30 pair in these past week.
The majority of the cheap ones were bass booming crap. Until I stumbled upon the "Intopic Jazz i57" for 450 NTD (12 euro).
I was just amazed, the sound quality of these thing were nothing like the other crap that I've heard.
So I bought them and wanted to share them with you (as this is the discovery thread.)
 

(I can't read that)
 

(First time that I've seen budget headphones talk about a balanced form of frequency spectrum instead of just bass)
 

(the rear)

(Nothing else in the box, just S & L tips, that are not in the picture. The clip is 360 degrees spinnable on its foot, nice detail.)
 

(I'll compare them to the Piston 2.0 with Sony MH1 tips, since everybody seems to have them)
 
 
Build quality:
Great as far as I can judge, the headphones are made of some kind of metal, apparently Zinc Alloy, and feel really sturdy.
The mic and one button remote work fine, the cable is made of soft flat rubber, non tangling, but not made for running since you can hear it when they move (microphonics?)
Y cord with the mic/remote in the left cable, its not heavy. The stock tips have a good seal.
 
Sound: (burn in just 24 hours, sorry, too excited.)
 
Bass:
Nothing short of amazing, deep, tight and fast. Faster and more detailed than the Pistons, just not that prominent. Still a bass heavy sound.
I love the subbass on these things. Listening to An Audience With The Pope - Elbow resonates your ears with the bass from the bigdrum (something that was absent with the ATH-CK500M).
Phoenix - Lasso offer nice deep details to the bass, similar to the piston, but less prominent and not that warm(bloated?).
 
Mids:
The Jazz i57 have a slight V-sounding signature vs the more U-shaped Pistons. Due to my personal preference towards the midrange, I greatly favour the Jazz i57 in this round. The song I use to test the midrange is Radiohead - Reckoner in which the first few notes in your left ear reveal a lot about the headphones.  The notes are more recessed compared to the cymbals in the Pistons.In the Jazz i57, the notes on different strings of the guitar sound more separated. Overall, more clarity and detail in the song with the Jazz I57.
Voices sound equally impressive on both, can't pick a winner here.
 
 
The Highs:
The Pistons take the crown here. Staying with the same song. The highs sound more natural and true to source with the Piston. I love accuracy and reverb of which the piston reproduce the highs. After owning the Xears XPA2Pro, sibilance is my worst feared enemy, the pistons comfort me on this matter. The Jazz i57 however has a very similar VSD1 sound. More prominent, more coloured highs (like the VSD1(S)), which at high volumes, busy drums, may be at the edge of sibiliant. Especially Miles Kane brings out my fear for sibliance. And at high volume they sound harsher than the Pistons, luckily not sibilant. At normal volumes, they sound very well, just a tad to prominent for my liking.
Soundstage is very small on the Jazz i57, comparable to a basketball a few inches in front of your head. The sound doesn't leave that area, while the Piston sound much wider.
 
 
Conclusion:
These headphones astonished me when I heard them. For their price (around 12 euro) there isn't any better around. Balanced sound, the perfect bass, nice midrange, only too prominent highs. I'm not trying to hype anything, nor do I work at Intopic. Just trying to share them with you. I hope more experienced people could review this headphone.
 
Mar 25, 2014 at 12:07 PM Post #23,373 of 100,329
 
FX850, K3003, PF X and IE800?


More like Trident, Crius, Ares, Hepheas
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but they were to sell and not to keep. I already had my own pairs of each.
 
Mar 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM Post #23,374 of 100,329
Mar 25, 2014 at 1:18 PM Post #23,376 of 100,329
Will be interested to hear the BE5 and M760 comparison. Tempted by the M760 but the original were not that warm and the Dasetn description is "balanced" so I skipped the M760 for the supposedly warmer, bassier BLOX.
 
Gratitude esp. with the right tips is surprisingly good. Above the MA750, the Sleek SA7, and real close with the AX60 I have on loan right now. Even runs with my recabled Mikros 90. Not shabby at all.
 
Mar 25, 2014 at 2:01 PM Post #23,377 of 100,329
  Will be interested to hear the BE5 and M760 comparison. Tempted by the M760 but the original were not that warm and the Dasetn description is "balanced" so I skipped the M760 for the supposedly warmer, bassier BLOX.
 
Gratitude esp. with the right tips is surprisingly good. Above the MA750, the Sleek SA7, and real close with the AX60 I have on loan right now. Even runs with my recabled Mikros 90. Not shabby at all.


M760 is balanced with a great bass at 26$, superior to a 100$ ANV3SE - don't wait till they are sold out, buy now!
The quality may vary though:
I first bought 2 M760, there is a "good" one and a "bad" one. The "good" one is above ANV3SE, the "bad" one is somewhere between M2C and ANV3.
I bought another 2, hoping to get at least another "good" one.
 
And customer support is practically non-existent - use Paypal, this way you'll be able to get your money back easier if something is wrong.
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM Post #23,382 of 100,329
No post in 20 hours, always makes me nervous...gotta post.
Hate to be the Head-Fi Grinch, but got the Doppios, listened (they were used, not sure if had much/any break in time) out of the box.
I found the highs edgy. Listened to Lorde, "Royals", has really strong finger snap/percussion going through it, sounded harsh through the Doppios (another HDTracks hi-rez download, X3 player, National amp). Listened again through Westone W40, different animal, clean, smooth sounding snaps and percussion. The Doppios may have done the bass better, not sure, was stuck on the highs. Pushed them to the head of the burn-in line, hooked up since yesterday, pull them out in a day or so, maybe that's all they needed.
:D
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 8:34 PM Post #23,383 of 100,329
No post in 20 hours, always makes me nervous...gotta post.
Hate to be the Head-Fi Grinch, but got the Doppios, listened (they were used, not sure if had much/any break in time) out of the box.
I found the highs edgy. Listened to Lorde, "Royals", has really strong finger snap/percussion going through it, sounded harsh through the Doppios (another HDTracks hi-rez download, X3 player, National amp). Listened again through Westone W40, different animal, clean, smooth sounding snaps and percussion. The Doppios may have done the bass better, not sure, was stuck on the highs. Pushed them to the head of the burn-in line, hooked up since yesterday, pull them out in a day or so, maybe that's all they needed.
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doppios won't sound right until 100 hours of burn in and won't sound great until 200 hours..then...all bets are off...although i liked them out of the box
they were edgy and blurred.  now you would have to pry them away from me with force and thats no farce...same for the on1s....
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 8:59 PM Post #23,384 of 100,329
OK, got them hooked up, let them run maybe 2 kazillion hours...been looking around for a deal on on1's, no great deals I've come across as of yet. Still got lots to play with, though, and have to get my review of W40 to The Audiophile Voice out in the next few days. Be good, Blue, gonna try to get off my keister and do some exercise, later...
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 9:29 PM Post #23,385 of 100,329
No post in 20 hours, always makes me nervous...gotta post.
Hate to be the Head-Fi Grinch, but got the Doppios, listened (they were used, not sure if had much/any break in time) out of the box.
I found the highs edgy. Listened to Lorde, "Royals", has really strong finger snap/percussion going through it, sounded harsh through the Doppios (another HDTracks hi-rez download, X3 player, National amp). Listened again through Westone W40, different animal, clean, smooth sounding snaps and percussion. The Doppios may have done the bass better, not sure, was stuck on the highs. Pushed them to the head of the burn-in line, hooked up since yesterday, pull them out in a day or so, maybe that's all they needed.
:D
doppios seriously had less than 2 hrs usage.
 

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