[Sylverant]

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[fzman]

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I have a question. Is there really such a thing as "too much detail"? 
 
I've seen some reviews that claim an earphone/headphone is "too detailed" to enjoy. The way I see it, wouldn't that just be an excess of treble emphasis that gives off that impression? I've heard phones like the TG334 and FI-BA-SS that offer up tons of detail without being fatiguing.
 
So, is there such a thing, in your opinion?

I don;t believe an audio system can literally add detail to a recording, it can however, change the presentation, and highlight upper mids and treble to make things 'sound detailed'.  As such, 'detailed' is a code word for a kind of coloration. 'Detail' can also be overly highlighted when a component or system is not phase coherent, and the treble leads the rest of the spectrum.  Lack of low end response would also leave the upper ranges more 'exposed' = 'detail'.
 
'Detail' might also be a result of overly close mic-ing, where you hear the fingers sliding along the strings of the guitar much more prominently than you would from the audience, or here clacking of the keys on a sax...  etc...  (LIke seeing pores on an actor from a close shot in hi res).
 
I've also run into situations where non-audiophiles, when confronted by a system with great resolving power, are overwhelmed as there is way more going on in their favorite recordings than they had ever heard before. (Imagine attending a football (American) game and trying to keep track of all 22 players at once, as opposed to the tv version, where the camera directs your attention to a specific subset of the players involved in the current play).  
 
I also think this is an especially interesting question when referenced specifically to so-called acoustic music. james444 comments on his holistic approach to listening, where he wants to hear the music as he hears it in the concert hall - that is from a specific acoustic distance.  In the hall, you hear the hall sound, i.e., the acoustic envelope as well as the ensemble, as a unified whole. You do not really hear soundstage and imaging - those are equipment terms.   
 
Not sure if that adds up to a 'yes' or a 'no' to your question.

 

[ardgedee]

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I don;t believe an audio system can literally add detail to a recording, it can however, change the presentation, and highlight upper mids and treble to make things 'sound detailed'.  As such, 'detailed' is a code word for a kind of coloration. 'Detail' can also be overly highlighted when a component or system is not phase coherent, and the treble leads the rest of the spectrum.  Lack of low end response would also leave the upper ranges more 'exposed' = 'detail'.

 
You can never restore what is missing (which is why upsampling a low-bitrate MP3 is pointless, or enlarging a small image into a larger one looks bad).
 
You can make more noticeable some of the detail that is obscured, a trick similar to sharpening a photo in Photoshop. The usual way to do this is to boost the highs -- do it a little, and you notice the detail without noticing the boost; do it too much and the sound can be harsh and grainy (just like over-sharpening a photo in Photoshop).
 
This is the usual reason why audiophile systems tend to be trebly, I think: It calls attention to the detail that the system is capable of, instead of letting that detail come out in a more natural way, and giving the owner a happy sense of getting his money's worth.

 

[ardgedee]

Grand Theft Auto Spongebob Patrick

which I think you can buy here. The most interesting games seem to be for the Playstation I and II.
 
It is mandatory that you read this article about the bootleg video game scene in Nairobi. Otherwise you will not be cool and your friends will laugh at you rather than with you, and there will be no milk before naptime.

 

[Idsynchrono_24]

I would totally play Grand Theft Auto: Kirk Douglas. Just throwin that out there

 

[drez]

^^^This is too good. I once bought socks from a Kenyan in Florence out of pity and they were pretty interesting as well. Actually not all that interesting they just fell apart. I hope I'm not sounding racist. BTW mind if I link that page to my facebook? I don't think anyone should be deprived of it's brilliance.

Hmm first time I actually wrote soucks instead of socks, which is a bit of a funny coincidence, google it.

 

[Mimouille]

If you don't produce a lot of wax, then it probably won't make as much of a difference as it does for someone like me who does.

You should make candles.

 

[Maxvla]

Speaking of the Yen, despite how it looks now, the Yen really isn't in that bad of shape. It has been significantly worse not too long ago.

 

[MrViolin]

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Just look at it as a good time to save and avoid buying too many things, for now. Then when the yen rebounds, you'll have more money relative to the economy. Look on the positive side.

I like that idea. 

 

[DigitalFreak]

Hey guys, now that I've beefed up my chain with a decent sounding DAC I'm starting to regret more and more selling my DT1350's. You think it's just sellers remorse?

 

[drez]

Hey guys, now that I've beefed up my chain with a decent sounding DAC I'm starting to regret more and more selling my DT1350's. You think it's just sellers remorse?

More than likely :S

 

[Coq de Combat]

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I would totally play Grand Theft Auto: Kirk Douglas. Just throwin that out there

That one looked awesome, and I have to wonder why they didn't do a GTA: Robocop. That one would seem fitting.
 
 
If I got shot to pieces, losing my family and all that jazz, and then in return, instead of just letting me die gracefully on a hospital bed, I got revived and put in a robotic bullet proof body with a state of the art hand gun and aiming software so that I can bask in my depression with no humanly possible way of taking alcohol or drugs to ease the pain - I'd just probably want to go berserk, GTA-style.

 

[eke2k6]

Yaaargh!
 
I friggin love my DT 880! 
 
Transitioning from my GR07 to the DT880 was almost as big a leap as the first time I listened to the Shure SE215, coming from the Meelectronics M9...
 
I'm really sorry for the constant blathering, but damn! There are songs that I listen to that literally send chills down my spine.
 
I'm driving it with a Sabre 9023 DAC, and a custom built amp (that I didn't pay for due to the generosity of a friend...my luck continues). I'm just blown away here. It's difficult going back to my iems during the day...
 
I sigh every time I have to take it off my head to go to sleep.

 

[Silent One]

We're feelin' good for you, eke2k6.

 

[jgray91]

Yaaargh!

I friggin love my DT 880! 

Transitioning from my GR07 to the DT880 was almost as big a leap as the first time I listened to the Shure SE215, coming from the Meelectronics M9...

I'm really sorry for the constant blathering, but damn! There are songs that I listen to that literally send chills down my spine.

I'm driving it with a Sabre 9023 DAC, and a custom built amp (that I didn't pay for due to the generosity of a friend...my luck continues). I'm just blown away here. It's difficult going back to my iems during the day...

I sigh every time I have to take it off my head to go to sleep.

You're making me hate you for getting a superdeal on that used DT880. By far my most favourite Beyer headphones I've tried in Jaben.