THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO
Oct 26, 2023 at 12:19 AM Post #902 of 4,151
My words...who wants a Utopia with more Low End/Bass should take a closer look at the composer 😉
(Also my words in the past that little bit above flat is enough 👍)










NOMAX

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I would like to see a comparative graph with the Neumann NDH 30 too, please, as measured by @oratory1990 (latest sample). They share some similarities up to 2kHz, with the NDH 30 being considerably darker than the Composer I think. It will give a better idea of the Composer's tonal balance for us NDH 30 users.
 
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Oct 26, 2023 at 12:51 AM Post #903 of 4,151
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Oct 26, 2023 at 1:19 AM Post #904 of 4,151
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Oct 26, 2023 at 1:44 AM Post #907 of 4,151
Maybe someone has access to put both FRs (the Composer + NDH 30) in the same graph? I am asking for too much, I know, lol !
You don't need to put them on the same chart to see that in terms of bass they are incomparable. ND30 starts to roll off at 50 Hz like most cheap dynamic headphones, and the Composer at 20 Hz, like probably no other dynamic headphones. Not surprising, to be honest. ND30 uses a little bit updated ancient tiny driver that was initially developed like in 1991 for the HD580.
 
Oct 26, 2023 at 1:45 AM Post #908 of 4,151
Yawn.. see comments like that is why this place is a marketing platform and MoT are mostly full of crap.
 
Oct 26, 2023 at 2:06 AM Post #909 of 4,151
Thank you @chesebert!
Maybe someone has access to put both FRs (the Composer + NDH 30) in the same graph? I am asking for too much, I know, lol !

I only have the Beyer DT1990

NOMAX

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Oct 26, 2023 at 3:31 AM Post #910 of 4,151
Will AA sell connectors for DiY cable builders?
 
Oct 26, 2023 at 3:37 AM Post #911 of 4,151
Maybe some are already included? Who Knows 😇
(And if not AA will surely offer them for sale...or will tell us where we can get them👍)

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Oct 26, 2023 at 3:43 AM Post #912 of 4,151
You don't need to put them on the same chart to see that in terms of bass they are incomparable. ND30 starts to roll off at 50 Hz like most cheap dynamic headphones, and the Composer at 20 Hz, like probably no other dynamic headphones. Not surprising, to be honest. ND30 uses a little bit updated ancient tiny driver that was initially developed like in 1991 for the HD580.
Not true. Please see at the comparable graph (same measurment jig) that the bass of the NDH30 is gradually elevating by about 2 dB below 100 Hz (slightly Harman-like), only to drop again to the previous level at 23 Hz. Expect the NDH 30 to sound a bit fuller than the Composer in the medium/low bass.
What's important however is that the bass range of the NDH 30 is impressively informative and coherent by dynamic drivers standards, clearly on of the best examples. I really hope that the Composer will surpass it.
 
Oct 26, 2023 at 3:54 AM Post #913 of 4,151
ND30 uses a little bit updated ancient tiny driver that was initially developed like in 1991 for the HD580.
Again, not accurate. It uses a very evolved version of that platform, specifically tuned and selected to the highest possible standards by Neumann. But all relative info is discussed in detail in the NDH 30 thread.
 
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Oct 26, 2023 at 4:11 AM Post #914 of 4,151
If you are only interested in the frequency response, you are welcome to have a look at the X60 or FiiO FT3👍
Even cheaper than the Neuman😉
Provided that the technical performance seems unimportant to you😉🙈

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kk2i0e06u27myf/Austrian Audio Hi-X60.pdf?dl=0


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Thank you! Currently I am only interested to a sound quality at the level of HD-800S, Focal Clear MG, NDH 30 and up. (Don't let price differences surprise you). That's why I am very interested to the Composer.
 
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Oct 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM Post #915 of 4,151
Again, not accurate. It uses a very evolved version of that platform, specifically tuned and selected to the highest possible standards by Neumann. But all relative info is discussed in detail in the NDH 30 thread.
It is exactly what I wrote - the same ancient driver a little bit updated (not necessary made better, since it takes longer to produce the old version of that driver). All those highest possible standard claims is just marketing bull.... for naïve people.

Not true. Please see at the comparable graph (same measurment jig) that the bass of the NDH30 is gradually elevating by about 2 dB below 100 Hz (slightly Harman-like), only to drop again to the previous level at 23 Hz. Expect the NDH 30 to sound a bit fuller than the Composer in the medium/low bass.
What's important however is that the bass range of the NDH 30 is impressively informative and coherent by dynamic drivers standards, clearly on of the best examples. I really hope that the Composer will surpass it.
The chart is above.
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And compare with the Composer.
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