[roguegeek]

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I dare to oppose. Everything goes down to price difference between Q701 and Annies. In some countries this difference is really huge. What is more - buying Q701 + Annie pads will be almost always cheaper than Annies alone and with identical sonical results. elwappo99 is right - from simple buyer's perspective and goals Annies are not fully justified. Sound differences head to head here are not like day vs night, unfortunately.

Considering the comfort and limited edition-ness, it's easily worth $50 more than a Q701 if you were in the market to buy one or the other.
 
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But, you just bought standard k702 pads to use with your k702 Annie. How can you think that the additional cost of 100 dollars plus the cost for the pads can be well worth? Isn't it simpler to just buy q701/k701/k702 and save some money? That I mean from your perspective.

When you factor in the cost of the headband replacement, the time it would take to DIY it on the standard model, and the stark difference in comfort you gain over it, it's easily worth the $50 more. Plus, it's a signature that more people would find pleasing over the standard models. For me, it worth even the additional $30 I spent on standard pads which a large percentage of people would probably never do. I mean, obviously it was worth it to me since I did exactly that and eventually sold my standard model.

 

[EvilKillaruna]

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Considering the comfort and limited edition-ness, it's easily worth $50 more than a Q701 if you were in the market to buy one or the other.

 
 
With only 50$ diff I can fully agree with you, really. But for the rest of the world it is not just 50$ difference. For example I have to pay twice (!) for Annies than for Q701, and that was the baseline for my final decision at a time.
Even right now the closest location to get them is from Germany, because Annies are not available in my country yet. 
 
So instead spending x2 as much money, it is better to:
- just get Q701 as cheap as you can, 
- order Annie pads, 
- maybe change headband to some DIY solutions*,
 
= still profit.
 
And yes, some people out there are in deep dark ...ekhm.... vs US . With only 50$ it is really wise to just get Annies, no doubts about it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
*As a side note about comfort - fortunately with bumps on Q701 I don't have a problem (I was really worried about it though). 

 

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Considering the comfort and limited edition-ness, it's easily worth $50 more than a Q701 if you were in the market to buy one or the other.
 
 

 
Lowest prices in Sweden:
 
k701: 260 USD
k702: 364 USD
q701: 357 USD
k702 Annie: 765 USD
k712 Pro: 602 USD
 
So the difference between k701 and k702 Annie is not 50 dollars in Sweden but 500 dollars! 
The difference between q701 and the Annies is 400 dollars. For 400 dollars one can buy Sennheiser HD600, Beyer DT880 etc.

 

[FritzS]

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Lowest prices in Sweden:
 
k701: 260 USD
k702: 364 USD
q701: 357 USD
k702 Annie: 765 USD
k712 Pro: 602 USD
 
So the difference between k701 and k702 Annie is not 50 dollars in Sweden but 500 dollars! 
The difference between q701 and the Annies is 400 dollars. For 400 dollars one can buy Sennheiser HD600, Beyer DT880 etc.

 
Thomann Germany
AKG price list for GB
http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_BF_akg.html?ls=100
 
AKG price list for SE
http://www.thomann.de/se/search_BF_akg.html?ls=100

 

[HaVoC-28]

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Thomann Germany
AKG price list for GB
http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_BF_akg.html?ls=100
 
AKG price list for SE
http://www.thomann.de/se/search_BF_akg.html?ls=100

 
Difference is not big => VAT not the same in GB and SE i guess ^^

 

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AKG price list for SE
http://www.thomann.de/se/search_BF_akg.html?ls=100

That's where I got my prices above from. 

 

[Blackmore]

Not that long ago, I saw several Anniversary edition on sale up here, both around USD 350, which is good price, if you want them. Of course, for EU based headfiers, shipping+possible tax are extra, but even then, it will be cheaper than pay double.[size=6pt][/size]
Like I already posted, K712 Pro are EUR 399 new here, while Anniversary EUR 555. If both sound identical, go figure out which one is cheaper, especially, after K712 will be on sale all over the place, unless they will keep production at very low level, but why would they, if they may sell good?
But for those who are happy with older K702, even better, go and get memory pads, done. Personally, I dont see any point to be in a hurry right now, because in few month, situation may be different and save you some cash to.
 
 
 
THX[size=6pt][/size]

 

[Wildstar]

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if there is reason enough for AKG to make a new parts list entry, then who knows what internal change could have been made? New magnet structures, optimization of the diaphragm layers, thickness changes... the list of potentially hidden improvements is staggering!
 
Previous contact with AKG representatives has only hinted at the "Annie" being tuned towards the sound profile of the new K712, and their reluctance to say outright that they sound the same gives me some confidence in the Contrarian belief that more change is to come. Indeed, this has shown itself even between the various iterations of K70x amongst the Head-fi crowd...
 
I may be wrong, but I won't say I'm right until I know for sure.
Let's all slow down a bit.
 

You clearly do not have any marketing experience.
Any new thing on a product, no matter how little, is like striking gold for the marketing department. Good marketing will squeeze every drop it can to hype the product. Marketing usually has to find creative new ways to describe the same product, when there is actually something physically new with the product, that's pure gold.
 
The assumption you must make when you see PR for a new product is that all new features are always explicitly mentioned and hyped, and if something is not mentioned, then it's not there. It's that simple.
If they had new magnet structures, diaphragm material, etc. you can bet they would hype it like hell, it would be plastered all over the PR. There is no mention of such things because they don't exist.
Or H-K has a really, really bad marketing department, which I don't think is likely.
 
Back on topic, where does one get memory foam pads in the EU?

 

[HiFiGuy528]

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Just an FYI in case anyone was wondering about K702-65 limited availability...
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition/2685#post_9540313

 
I am in direct contact with the product manager.  it's 3000 units for the K702-65 and 1000 for the C451-65. 
 
The US List Price for the K612 Pro is USD 279.00 and for the K712 Pro USD 699.00
 
Those are retail prices.  Street should be much lower.
 

 

[Overwerk]

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Actually while the dt990 was fun I prefer a more neutral sound, so for me the dt880 was better.  But the overall sound is good, fun for bassy genres like edm, if your like me who want to listen to more than just edm i find the dt 880 better.
 

Thanks, seems like I should hold my money and wait and but it instead, already like my dt880 alot but want something similar but better so.

haha if you listen to EDM,  beyerdynamic is the least of choices. overkill if it's the flagship series. 
 
recommend: sol republic, v moda.

 

[Overwerk]

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700 bucks should be the price for k801 -.-

 

[Overwerk]

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You clearly do not have any marketing experience.
Any new thing on a product, no matter how little, is like striking gold for the marketing department. Good marketing will squeeze every drop it can to hype the product. Marketing usually has to find creative new ways to describe the same product, when there is actually something physically new with the product, that's pure gold.
 
The assumption you must make when you see PR for a new product is that all new features are always explicitly mentioned and hyped, and if something is not mentioned, then it's not there. It's that simple.
If they had new magnet structures, diaphragm material, etc. you can bet they would hype it like hell, it would be plastered all over the PR. There is no mention of such things because they don't exist.
Or H-K has a really, really bad marketing department, which I don't think is likely.
 
Back on topic, where does one get memory foam pads in the EU?

good marketing is PS4,  what your described sounds like xbone

 

[roguegeek]

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Just an FYI in case anyone was wondering about K702-65 limited availability...
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition/2685#post_9540313

 
I am in direct contact with the product manager.  it's 3000 units for the K702-65 and 1000 for the C451-65. 
 
The US List Price for the K612 Pro is USD 279.00 and for the K712 Pro USD 699.00
 
Those are retail prices.  Street should be much lower.

 
Well then it looks like there are definitely conflicting reports coming directly from Harman. And the mystery continues. I'd share contacts with you privately if you're wanting to verify or investigate further.

 

[roguegeek]

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Lowest prices in Sweden:
 
k701: 260 USD
k702: 364 USD
q701: 357 USD
k702 Annie: 765 USD
k712 Pro: 602 USD
 
So the difference between k701 and k702 Annie is not 50 dollars in Sweden but 500 dollars! 
The difference between q701 and the Annies is 400 dollars. For 400 dollars one can buy Sennheiser HD600, Beyer DT880 etc.

The question was, "is it worth it for $50 more." My answer is yes.

 

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The question was, "is it worth it for $50 more." My answer is yes.

Yeah. For 50 bucks more it is probably worth it, but not really relevant for many people on this forum.