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Steve Jobs Has Died!
Oct 6, 2011 at 4:52 PM Post #76 of 158
Oct 6, 2011 at 5:03 PM Post #77 of 158

 
For a bazillionaire he lived pretty modestly.
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM Post #78 of 158
Oct 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM Post #80 of 158
He was born a millionaire I believe. But this was before apple :)
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 6:57 PM Post #82 of 158


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colmustard said:
This is how I feel. While it may be hard to realize, I wrote this with the best of intentions, while mixing in some reasons why I am anti-apple. The main point I'm trying to make in the article is that the media attention of his death is misplaced. Rather than focusing on the company he ran, we should be looking at the person he was.
 
http://breakthenetwork.com/2011/10/06/an-anti-apple-viewpoint-of-steve-jobs-and-his-death/
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Buh. I wrote a lot... And to be honest, too much of it was about Apple. The company brings out all the nay and yay-sayers in us and I'm ashamed to admit I'm just as guilty of this. So I guess I failed there. :D
 
Oh, and I still respect you and your opinion. I do not want to flame anybody.
 
edit: Crap, did I write more in my response than you in your original post? Blegh, I need to condense my thought and not ramble on so much...
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 7:00 PM Post #83 of 158
Steve was born an orphan and adopted by a well-off working-class couple.
 

 
 
 
 
 

"Jobs was born in San Francisco on February 24, 1955. Shortly thereafter he was adopted by Paul and Clara Jobs of the same city, who had married in 1946 but had been unable to have a child of their own. They named their new son Steven Paul Jobs. Jobs' biological parents were Joanne Schieble of Green Bay, Wisconson, and Syrian-born Abdulfattah Jandali, unmarried, both 23, and both students at the University of Wisconsin in Madison."
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/steve_jobs_bio_1/
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM Post #84 of 158


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grokit said:
Steve was born an orphan and adopted by a well-off couple.
 

 
"Jobs was born in San Francisco on February 24, 1955. Shortly thereafter he was adopted by Paul and Clara Jobs of the same city, who had married in 1946 but had been unable to have a child of their own. They named their new son Steven Paul Jobs. Jobs' biological parents were Joanne Schieble of Green Bay, Wisconson, and Syrian-born Abdulfattah Jandali, unmarried, both 23, and both students at the University of Wisconsin in Madison."
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/steve_jobs_bio_1/
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Are you sure he was an orphan? According to wikipedia his biological parents were still alive when he was adopted by the Jobs', etc
 
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Jobs' biological parents – Abdulfattah John Jandali, a Syrian Muslim immigrant to the U.S.,[23][24] who later became a political science professor at the University of Nevada and is presently a vice president of Boomtown Hotel Casino in Reno, Nevada,[25] and Joanne Schieble (later Simpson), an American graduate student[26] of Swiss and German ancestry[27] who went on to become a speech language pathologist[28] – eventually married.
 
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Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM Post #85 of 158
 
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jjinh said:
Are you sure he was an orphan? According to wikipedia his biological parents were still alive when he was adopted by the Jobs', etc
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There are different definitions of the term orphan, I was going by the one that says he was separated from both of his birth parents.
 
"One legal definition used in the United States is a minor bereft through "death or disappearance of, abandonment or desertion by, or separation or loss from, both parents"
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 8:10 PM Post #86 of 158


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warriorant said:
Can anyone ID those speakers?
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That's a J.A. Michell Gyrodec and a pair of Acoustat electrostats in the background.
 
credits to Uncle Erik :wink:
 
Oct 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM Post #87 of 158
 
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zarakisan said:
Buh. I wrote a lot... And to be honest, too much of it was about Apple. The company brings out all the nay and yay-sayers in us and I'm ashamed to admit I'm just as guilty of this. So I guess I failed there. :D
 
Oh, and I still respect you and your opinion. I do not want to flame anybody.
 
edit: Crap, did I write more in my response than you in your original post? Blegh, I need to condense my thought and not ramble on so much...
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I don't mind that you wrote alot, but I do mind that you attacked my opinions on the basis of an irrational argument.
 
I've updated my article to clarify my stance, I apologize for any confusion. I'm a programmer not a writer after all! My attack is on Apple and the Media using Steve's death to promote their products.
 
Oct 7, 2011 at 1:54 AM Post #88 of 158
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Oct 7, 2011 at 4:43 AM Post #89 of 158
colmustard said:
This is how I feel. While it may be hard to realize, I wrote this with the best of intentions, while mixing in some reasons why I am anti-apple. The main point I'm trying to make in the article is that the media attention of his death is misplaced. Rather than focusing on the company he ran, we should be looking at the person he was.
 
http://breakthenetwork.com/2011/10/06/an-anti-apple-viewpoint-of-steve-jobs-and-his-death/
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So what you're saying is that my 81 year-old uncle loves the iPad because he is trying to appear cool and hip.

Interesting.

I'll run that one by him this Sunday - he has a wonderful sense of humor and will have a laugh.

He has hated computers for the better part of 30 years. Useless. Too many problems. He complained about the fuss over the iPad. So I put mine in his hands. Showed him how to open the NYT and IMdB apps then left him with it. He got a little choked up after 15 minutes. It all made sense. Mentioned that books and music were available, and he was sold.

Specs don't matter. At all. Reliability and ease of use are everything.

20 years ago, I was accepted as a computer science major at a couple schools. I'm glad I didn't take that route. I don't care about specs or computers any more. I just want information and a lack of problems. Yes, that's worth a premium. Seems like I'm not the only one.

When you've lived a few more years, you'll have a different perspective on life. Some things just aren't important, like pretty much every argument you listed against Apple. I'm sure you'll disagree. But you'll see things differently when you hit 30, 40 or 50.

Apple products aren't for the spec-driven young men. Sales go to a wide variety of people, not just 20 year old white guys. There's a reason why my seven year-old nephew is attached to his iPad. Hint: it ain't status-seeking.

Or when I bought my Mom an iPhone in 2007. She was 65 at the time. I let her play with mine. The conversation was mostly her saying things like, "that's it? That's all I have to do? It'll make a call when I press the name? Really? That's all I have to do? I can use Google on my phone? Really?" So I bought her one the next day. She's been a die-hard user since. She especially loves taking photos and sending them around.

The genius of these products was making advanced communications and data use available to everyone. If you don't see that, you truly do not understand.

Also, I'll take a swing at useless knowledge hipsterism. There's a certain "cool" in being able to do a complex task that requires a lot of learning. The people who invest a lot of time in this stuff are cheesed off by "amateurs" who can use a computer without the deep learning. So it's fashionable for that set to hate Apple. More defense isn't necessary; the sales figures speak for themselves.
 
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