[krenzler]

Just have mine replaced - fingers crossed.

 

[Jawsq]

I dislike them intensely. I have a pair of $50 Sony WH-CH510 that IMO sound better than the WH-1000XM4. I thought the $350 pair would be a massive upgrade from the $50 pair.

Never again will I take notice of the hype.

It been difficult for me to find a good set of closed back wireless headphones. I have the wh-1000xm4 and I mostly use it for the noise canceling while traveling, that's really it . In most situations when I need closed back just put my Iem W/ MOJO and ipod and get on with listening or i put my true wireless on ( Sennheiser true wireless momentum 2) when working out.

 

[Orangutan]

Has anyone tried the WH-1000XM4 in wired mode, connected to an amp but in ANC mode? I get this strange tone on one side of the headphone when there is no music playing. Only happens in this configuration.

 

[tpac]

Would the 1000XM4's be an upgrade sound-wise over the Sennheiser HD 598 Special Edition Over-Ear Headphones?

Mostly just looking for an upgrade that's closed back (HD598SE are open) and the 1000XM4's are down to $230 everywhere for prime day. Would be using the 1000XM4's off in wired mode.

 

[Eagle_Driver]

Would the 1000XM4's be an upgrade sound-wise over the Sennheiser HD 598 Special Edition Over-Ear Headphones?

Mostly just looking for an upgrade that's closed back (HD598SE are open) and the 1000XM4's are down to $230 everywhere for prime day. Would be using the 1000XM4's off in wired mode.

Nope. If anything, they would be a significant downgrade from the HD 598 SE because I do not care for the way the WH-1000XM4 does its bass boost: Its bass shelf extends too far into the lower mids, making the low end sound honky and woofy. And using the XM4 wired without its NC turned on will only make things worse.

 

[Sonic Defender]

Nope. If anything, they would be a significant downgrade from the HD 598 SE because I do not care for the way the WH-1000XM4 does its bass boost: Its bass shelf extends too far into the lower mids, making the low end sound honky and woofy. And using the XM4 wired without its NC turned on will only make things worse.

That is why we correct things with equalization which is an incredibly effective technique to deal with things such as you describe. There are people who would tell you why they don't like the HD598 believe me. There are no universal preferences.

 

[loomisjohnson]

guys:
recently my xm4 started sounding terrible when used with spotify--boomy and hollow, with little midrange presence--tidal, youtube etc. all sound undistorted and fine. i tried updating the sony app and also reinstalling the spotify app but get the same problem. could it be something in the spotify or sony settings? any helprful hints would be appreciated.

 

[fanteskiller]

WH-1000XM4 has best noisy cancellation function I've tried.

 

[starfly]

Well, I just got the Dekoni Audio Choice Leather pads, and it significantly improves comfort. I think it does affect the frequency response and ANC, but I don't use these enough to really tell a difference. Going on a flight next week, will get to test ANC then.

 

[DDDYKI]

Well, I just got the Dekoni Audio Choice Leather pads, and it significantly improves comfort. I think it does affect the frequency response and ANC, but I don't use these enough to really tell a difference. Going on a flight next week, will get to test ANC then.

Crap, now I wish I had gone with the standard black color on the headphones instead of that midnight blue color. The stock pads are garbage but I'm not sure I could stomach either black or gray on the blue.

 

[starfly]

Crap, now I wish I had gone with the standard black color on the headphones instead of that midnight blue color. The stock pads are garbage but I'm not sure I could stomach either black or gray on the blue.

Yeah, well if you value ANC at all, keep in mind that those pads noticeably reduce the ANC effectiveness.

 

[DDDYKI]

Yeah, well if you value ANC at all, keep in mind that those pads noticeably reduce the ANC effectiveness.

I saw that in the Dekoni reviews, but I'd accept the tradeoff for comfort. Likely not going to mix and match colors so I might start with something closer in color to the blue model, such as these: https://www.amazon.com/WC-Cushions-Replacement-WH1000XM4-Headphones/dp/B08ZNV8QLV/
Not as thick as the Dekoni, though.

 

[angelus55]

do the airpods max have bigger/deeper earcups for your ears to fit in then the sony xm4/xm5?

 

[Derek411]

I waited forever for these. Tried in store but never got them. Till now. Guess i read all the reviews saying the 3's and 4's were similar sounding. They are not. Its not till you have both in house you really know.

I'm unsure if i want to keep or return them. I got them from Amazon. On paper its a list of what we may have been looking for. Multipoint connection. More detail, less bass and possibly more comfort?

I think tho the upgrades are nice. The sound is where i like the upgrade to be. I find them lacking that fat bass and a bit hollow. Maybe the recipe was too good with the 3's. Maybe thats why the 5's exist. Try and try again. I have the Airpods Max (and many others) they have cracking detail and a tight bass. Bit spoiled maybe.

I'll keep trying, maybe run them in. I have till the 31st to decide on a return. Cheers!

 

[Derek411]

do the airpods max have bigger/deeper earcups for your ears to fit in then the sony xm4/xm5?

Yes.