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Mar 11, 2024 at 5:16 AM Post #14,746 of 15,757
Yes. With Direct Source, changing the language will change the sound. So far Japanese is the one I prefer overall.
Although I would think the Japanese Language has a weakness/tradeoff. It has a kind of veil in the female vocals(as what @boodi pointed out previously). I think this is intentionally done. It reduces the more harsher sounding side of sibilant sounds, especially with female vocals, but this also slightly reduces the detailing/sweetness of vocals, this is more evident when you compare to the sound of Portuguese language which doesn't have this veil.

But given that, the Japanese's signature will work very well across the wider genre of music compared to other languages.
 
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Mar 11, 2024 at 5:29 AM Post #14,747 of 15,757
In fact I "have to" switch to JL if I want that added deeper stage low rumble in some genres..although PL ( Portuguese ) is definitely good in preserving bass and inching up prat vs JL , still having sense of subbass , and adding sligthly in emphasizing stereo effect and positioning Vs JL, things I like in my setup and listenings ,as for a different spatial layering outcome due to slightly more pronounced mids ..that works well with jazz too, that relies much more on upper bass and lower mids then on sub / low frequencies. JL on the other hand has overemphasis on subbass and deepness of stage. Sony ier 1zr alike.

JL makes Steve Vai 'Inviolate' or Muse XX anniversary 'Space Dementia' ( hires formats ) sounding more epic for this, stage deepness and lower rumbles get that extra stretch with JL and -at times- it's welcome

It's nice enough we can switch on the fly ..no, it is great. And useful.

Also JL highs are a very sligthly inch somewhere more gentle ir sweeter then PL , or so it seems to me. PL highs aren't fatiguing , in fact I'm testing PL as my sound profile 'to go' for general purpose.

I am listening an album from QOTSA and it sounds great on JL as it really needs that extra omph to gain proportions, then I switch to Mastodon ( almost same genre ) but PL helps gaining some clarity in mids and punch in upper bass here . So I prefer.

As already said , it's definitely good thing to have both for me.


Both sound better ( clearer ) offline: anyhow. Offline is a must: in any case
 
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Mar 11, 2024 at 5:31 AM Post #14,748 of 15,757
Yes. With Direct Source, changing the language will change the sound. So far Japanese is the one I prefer overall.
I just tested with Japanese, English, German and Chinese on my WM1ZM2, they all sound exactly the same, at least with my IER-M9 on 4.4mm

I hear absolutely no difference.

Can you recommend an Song and an part where you can hear an difference?
 
Mar 11, 2024 at 7:40 AM Post #14,749 of 15,757
@ttt123
it makes me wonder about the kind of sound tuning that these Japanese Audio Engineers like Mr Sato would have to consider in order to make the Walkman sound great with the vast music genres out there. I would think it is an incredibly delicate balancing act.

 
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Article on recycled plastic used by Sony for their WH-1000XM5 and linkbuds
https://www.sony.net/corporate/sustainability/ActTogether/special/2022-09-01/
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/eco/headphones

Some insights into Sony AI sound processing R&D:
we can have the opportunity to get feedback from various talented experts of Sony Group, such as musicians and producers of the music business and acoustic designers and mixing engineers of the pictures business.
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/research/work-style/marco.html
 
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Mar 11, 2024 at 11:52 PM Post #14,757 of 15,757
Sony has been developing the underlying tech(Sound Source Separation) inside DSEE AI/Ultimate since 1990s. But it was too ahead of it's time back then:
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According to Sony's Mr. Mitsufuji, the technology to separate a specific sound from a recording containing a mixture of various sounds was developed around 1990. It has been taken up in the field of academic research since then. Mr. Mitsufuji is a specialist in AI Sound Separation as a Distinguished Engineer at the Sony Group R&D Center.

Mitsufuji recalls that at the time, many researchers were working on sound source separation technology, which was a difficult problem.

“From around 1990 to 2000, sound source separation was considered a technology so difficult that it was difficult to put any practical application into it. "

From around 2010, an approach to separating sound sources using machine learning knowledge began to be adopted, and a way forward was opened. The ``wave of AI'' began around 2012. Sony was also quick to note that AI technology, which had begun to be used for voice recognition, could also be applied to sound source separation.

Mr. Mitsufuji explains that the basis of this technology is ``similar to the way we humans use experience to recognize the shape of an apple.'' In the case of Sony's sound source separation technology, for example, AI learns the unique timbre, characteristic frequencies, and temporal fluctuations of a piano, and then cleanly separates just the piano part from a sound source that contains multiple sounds.

Sony's AI Sound Separation has been incorporated into highly versatile applications that can be enjoyed on a variety of smartphones, such as LINE MUSIC. In the future, if we consider further refining the application from the perspective of "quality", we would like to incorporate this into specially designed hardware, such as Sony's portable audio system such as the Walkman, which is equipped with a high-quality sound source separation function. There seems to be potential for this technology to be applied to equipment, musical instrument practice devices, etc.

https://www.phileweb.com/interview/article/202106/23/836.html
 
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Mar 12, 2024 at 6:03 AM Post #14,759 of 15,757
No change in sound signature that I can hear when changing language on my 1ZM2.

On my ZX707 however I can notice a clear difference and a play interrupt when changing. Much prefer the JP language sound signature:)
 
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