james444
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I don't think so and really wish I had my EX1000 for a proper A/B. The EX600 are far from being bass monsters, but are bordering on too much with some recordings (eg. the KC Mainz recording). I can't remember feeling the same about my EX1000. Likewise I'd wish for less forward mids and slightly more/better treble with a few recordings on the EX600, whereas the EX1000 sounded spot-on with pretty much all of my stuff.
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Don't take my remark too seriously. You love the CK10 and the W4 certainly wouldn't sound "small" next to these. It's more that the Sonys just sound "big" to these ears and there's something so addicting about the output of their 16mm drivers.
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I wonder do tips play a role in measuring frequency response, as they certainly do for the human ear, even tip placement on the nozzle. I let dfkt listen to the EX600 and he liked them but said they sounded slightly veiled. Turned out he had his tips placed just a few mm further towards the front of the nozzle than me and that made a significant difference. I assume they need to use tips on their IEMs to produce those FR-graphs, so how do they ensure the same conditions while measuring different models? Not doubting the graphs, it's just an aspect I've been thinking about.
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Well in fact dfkt let me try his zo during our last meet, but tbo it failed to impress me. I didn't hear it with the W4 though, just his e-Q5 and the GR10 that I had brought along. He's just much more of a bass lover, whereas most of my current IEMs have already enough bass for my taste on flat EQ. Btw. that remark about the W4 sounding "small" wasn't about bass in particular, more an overall impression as compared to the Sonys. I should have phrased it differently though, as the Sonys just sound "big" to my ears and the W4 not "smaller" than most others.
James444 - Interesting how you heard the W4s this time round. Perhaps you'll end up liking the EX600 more than the EX1000s. Not entirely joking, BTW.
I don't think so and really wish I had my EX1000 for a proper A/B. The EX600 are far from being bass monsters, but are bordering on too much with some recordings (eg. the KC Mainz recording). I can't remember feeling the same about my EX1000. Likewise I'd wish for less forward mids and slightly more/better treble with a few recordings on the EX600, whereas the EX1000 sounded spot-on with pretty much all of my stuff.
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Thanks james, crossingW4off the list now Lol.
Don't take my remark too seriously. You love the CK10 and the W4 certainly wouldn't sound "small" next to these. It's more that the Sonys just sound "big" to these ears and there's something so addicting about the output of their 16mm drivers.
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The graphs should be read with a holistic approach. The EX1000's main spike is actually at 5.5k, while the EX700s is at exactly 6k. But the EX700s bigger dips on the upper-mids will accentuate that spike more than the EX1000s 5.5k spike. The response is actually the same at 6k, but once again, the EX1000s transfer more of that energy to the upper mids.
I wonder do tips play a role in measuring frequency response, as they certainly do for the human ear, even tip placement on the nozzle. I let dfkt listen to the EX600 and he liked them but said they sounded slightly veiled. Turned out he had his tips placed just a few mm further towards the front of the nozzle than me and that made a significant difference. I assume they need to use tips on their IEMs to produce those FR-graphs, so how do they ensure the same conditions while measuring different models? Not doubting the graphs, it's just an aspect I've been thinking about.
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James, you should hear the W4's with a digiZoid zo attached. It really puts those dual bass drivers to good work. Dfkt has written a really good review on the zo.
Well in fact dfkt let me try his zo during our last meet, but tbo it failed to impress me. I didn't hear it with the W4 though, just his e-Q5 and the GR10 that I had brought along. He's just much more of a bass lover, whereas most of my current IEMs have already enough bass for my taste on flat EQ. Btw. that remark about the W4 sounding "small" wasn't about bass in particular, more an overall impression as compared to the Sonys. I should have phrased it differently though, as the Sonys just sound "big" to my ears and the W4 not "smaller" than most others.