SMSL iDEA portable dac+amp
Feb 1, 2018 at 3:32 AM Post #346 of 544
You think that this dac is good in a desktop setup with a dedicated headphone amp? Or is it better for portable and get something else for desk use?
It's incredibly good value for the money, you can easily use it as a desktop source with a dedicated headphone amp.
The only caveat is it that it was not meant to be used like a desktop dac. It doesn't have separate line out with a dedicated analog output circuitry but it is all-in-one dac SABRE9018Q2C.
You can read the dac's specs here: http://esstech.com.tw/PDF/SABRE9018Q2C PB v0.8 141210.pdf
A typical desktop dac has a dac chip and more or less sofisticated analog output circuitry, using either opamps or a discrete design. If you have a chance, than I would rather go for a grown up desktop solution and use iDEA for portable.
 
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Feb 7, 2018 at 5:05 AM Post #347 of 544
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Feb 7, 2018 at 6:12 AM Post #349 of 544
i am making some tests with high quality files now and is obvious that the sabaj is superior to the dragonfly, the bass is a lot more detailed, there is new layer of texture, mids are not warm but cleaner and more open, the treble is more airy and the sound is more effortless overall
 
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Feb 7, 2018 at 3:19 PM Post #352 of 544
You think that this dac is good in a desktop setup with a dedicated headphone amp? Or is it better for portable and get something else for desk use?

The Sabaj Da2 is excellent for a desktop. The Da3 is even better. The money you spend on a more expensive desktop dac can be used for something like the iFi iDefender to improve sound quality. The Idea/Da2 and especially the Da3 compete with any <$500 desktop dac I have heard, and I've heard a lot.
 
Feb 8, 2018 at 5:00 AM Post #353 of 544
The Sabaj Da2 is excellent for a desktop. The Da3 is even better. The money you spend on a more expensive desktop dac can be used for something like the iFi iDefender to improve sound quality. The Idea/Da2 and especially the Da3 compete with any <$500 desktop dac I have heard, and I've heard a lot.

Sounds good. I ended up ordering the Topping D10 though for connecting to my Arcam rHead on my desktop setup.
 
Feb 9, 2018 at 9:51 AM Post #354 of 544
I am a mere enthusiast with little knowledge and limited access to audio equipment. The only thing I can say is that the IQ gives me the closest and most "balanced" delivery of music to my ears I am expecting and have experienced in the last 20 years if that makes sense.
(I should add that I only use portable devices and iems)

Of course that's completely subjective and your expectations might differ to what else you have/had access to or your personal tastes.

My most "recent" equipment was mentioned in my post, so I can't help comparing with the one you cited :)
Can you confirm if it works with phones?
 
Feb 11, 2018 at 8:40 PM Post #355 of 544
Can you confirm if it works with phones?
It works with my Xperia phone (usb-c / Oreo), cannot confirm with others ... but it supposed to be a portable DAC so it should work with most phones (I believe there are always few exceptions when it comes to android). Package came with 2 mini cables; micro-usb to micro-usb and micro-usb to usb-c. Can't say about iDevices.

Edit: there is an option in the settings to switch between usb1.1 and usb2.0 transmission, supposedly to increase compatibility with Android and Linux.
 
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Feb 12, 2018 at 9:18 PM Post #356 of 544
It works with my Xperia phone (usb-c / Oreo), cannot confirm with others ... but it supposed to be a portable DAC so it should work with most phones (I believe there are always few exceptions when it comes to android). Package came with 2 mini cables; micro-usb to micro-usb and micro-usb to usb-c. Can't say about iDevices.

Edit: there is an option in the settings to switch between usb1.1 and usb2.0 transmission, supposedly to increase compatibility with Android and Linux.
So i bought it and i can only barely hear it at max everything on my phone. I have a Droid Turbo 2. This happens every time. Im getting a new phone soon, what phone works, do you know why your sony works, unfortunately I cant get a sony experia. ****. Im going to use it for my speakers for the time. But it was portable for a reason yknow?
 
Feb 12, 2018 at 11:58 PM Post #357 of 544
So i bought it and i can only barely hear it at max everything on my phone. I have a Droid Turbo 2. This happens every time. Im getting a new phone soon, what phone works, do you know why your sony works, unfortunately I cant get a sony experia. ****. Im going to use it for my speakers for the time. But it was portable for a reason yknow?

Hmmm... i set my volume between 7 and 10 (max is 25 or 30? I forgot) on the IQ. Did you check the volume on the phone itself? It is related if you don't use a specific app for USB audio output.
I'm using "Onkyo HF Player" app from Google Playstore - it should handle USB DAC better if you haven't tried that. ( they have a free version, or you can get a "USB Player Pro" demo from another dev)
 
Feb 13, 2018 at 1:12 PM Post #358 of 544


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The Sabaj DA3 is a really good sounding piece of equipment, in both desktop (as a standalone DAC feeding a more powerful amp) and portable (like above or with a laptop) settings. It doesn't have a ton of output power, even if you opt to use the 2.5mm balanced port but for low impedance, high sensitivity loads like the Massdrop Plus IEM I have pictured there, it's a satisfyingly powerful setup that sounds great. I've had the DA3 for a while and it's a great performer, no matter what I've thrown at it so I'm very pleased with it for the $96 or so I spent on Amazon.
 
Feb 13, 2018 at 3:52 PM Post #359 of 544
Did Apple finally cut support to the third party cables?

I have the FiiO L19 cables which were working with my iDea and iPhone X just last month but after a string of new updates, doesn't appear to work anymore.

Will check with my iPad as well

However the camera kit cable does work with th iDea
 
Feb 13, 2018 at 5:26 PM Post #360 of 544
So i bought it and i can only barely hear it at max everything on my phone. I have a Droid Turbo 2. This happens every time. Im getting a new phone soon, what phone works, do you know why your sony works, unfortunately I cant get a sony experia. ****. Im going to use it for my speakers for the time. But it was portable for a reason yknow?

Yes it seems like Moto does some weird things with their phones...I tried a Zorloo ZuperDAC-S (same ESS SABRE chipset) on an old moto G and it didn't work either...I read somewhere that someone was able to get it to work by putting a USB OTG cable between the phone and the DAC. You can try that if your phone has a Micro USB connection. I plan to give it a try when I get a chance just for kicks...
 

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