[rb2013]

Supposedly the older usb gen 1 for the bifrost was not up to par with coaxial, but the usb gen 2 is supposedly just as good as coaxial and plays 192 nicely. At least that's the jist I got from a few posts around the web. Im spending too much money now though, new tubes, new cables, dac upgrades, new CDs, new microphone... I could of bought a pair of LCD 3s -_-. 

Welcome to audio! The payoff will be huge.

That usb gen 2 was a big stepup from gen 1, and is a tremendous value.

What's the point though of $1500 hps fed by a mediocre upstream.

 

[PinkLed]

Welcome to audio! The payoff will be huge.

That usb gen 2 was a big stepup from gen 1, and is a tremendous value.

What's the point though of $1500 hps fed by a mediocre upstream.

Good point, I always had a feeling i was being bottle-necked by something. Perhaps my connections (ie hp cable and to-slink) are the culprit. 

 

[rb2013]

Just had a great conversation with a major audio dealer in Fl. Carries only very high end gear, his clients have been asking about '70s 6n23p Voskhods for their sota gear! He contacted me a for a top pair of '78s I had listed on ebay, he needed them for demoing his equipment. Had borrowed a pair of '79s from a friend and liked them better then Amperex, Siemens, and Telefunkens he had!

Wanted a steady, large supply to offer to his clients. Unfortunately, they have become exceedingly rare these days. I think I have located a new source - just bought 5 '75s! Including a Holy Grail. We'll see when they arrive and are tested.

The word is traveling into high end audio circles...hold on to your '70s...they very well may become 'the' cult 6922 tube to own. You all heard it here 1st!!

 

[gmahler2u]

Just had a great conversation with a major audio dealer in Fl. Carries only very high end gear, his clients have been asking about '70s 6n23p Voskhods for their sota gear! He contacted me a for a top pair of '78s I had listed on ebay, he needed them for demoing his equipment. Had borrowed a pair of '79s from a friend and liked them better then Amperex, Siemens, and Telefunkens he had!

Wanted a steady, large supply to offer to his clients. Unfortunately, they have become exceedingly rare these days. I think I have located a new source - just bought 5 '75s! Including a Holy Grail. We'll see when they arrive and are tested.

The word is traveling into high end audio circles...hold on to your '70s...they very well may become 'the' cult 6922 tube to own. You all heard it here 1st!!

I'm having rolling these 70's Voskhod...YES 75gray, 71SWGP, 76gray, and so on!! this are really fun rolling tube right now....(for me)  I'm also stacking them also, I've been lucky because I don't have to go running around chasing Other Voskhod venders.  I have secret vender and he's giving me great supplies for me..
 

  cheers

 

[rb2013]

I'm having rolling these 70's Voskhod...YES 75gray, 71SWGP, 76gray, and so on!! this are really fun rolling tube right now....(for me)  I'm also stacking them also, I've been lucky because I don't have to go running around chasing Other Voskhod venders.  I have secret vender and he's giving me great supplies for me..

  cheers

Great to hear!

I was listening again last night for hours. New Sarah McLachlan album 'Shin On' is awesome, her best since 'Surfacing'. On female vocals these HG tubes are so incisive, but still incredibly musical. I was thinking what can I improve to make this better, and for the 1st time in my decades of audio was at a loss. I just can't see how it could get better, different, but not better. Then just sat back and enjoyed another few albums...

Cheers!

 

[nykobing]

The word is traveling into high end audio circles...hold on to your '70s...they very well may become 'the' cult 6922 tube to own. You all heard it here 1st!!

 
Do you know if it is possible to date a 6n23p by the fact that it is single wire getter? I am not talkng about exact years, just a general estimate. Just looking at your posts they only seem to be of 1971-1975 or 1976. I don't think I have seen one posted from the 60's or 80's.

 

[pfurey89]

Is it a worthy upgrade money wise to tube from my solid state schiit stack? Will I notice a huge difference in tone?

 

[gmahler2u]

   
Do you know if it is possible to date a 6n23p by the fact that it is single wire getter? I am not talkng about exact years, just a general estimate. Just looking at your posts they only seem to be of 1971-1975 or 1976. I don't think I have seen one posted from the 60's or 80's.

I have Voskhod 71 and 74...

 

[rb2013]

Do you know if it is possible to date a 6n23p by the fact that it is single wire getter? I am not talkng about exact years, just a general estimate. Just looking at your posts they only seem to be of 1971-1975 or 1976. I don't think I have seen one posted from the 60's or 80's.

That's correct. The earliest I have of the Voskhod or Reflektor single wire getter post is 1970, the oldest 1975.

I have other Voskhod tubes earlier, but they are 6n2p, not the same tube. These Russian, Ukraine, Moldovian dealers will slip those in occasionally - when they're supposed to be sending 6n23p only. Ugg! So be careful!

 

[rb2013]

Is it a worthy upgrade money wise to tube from my solid state schiit stack? Will I notice a huge difference in tone?

The tube Lyr will generally have a richer tone, and a more musical sound - depending on which tubes you use. You can tailor the sound to your hps and tastes.
Why we're all here. Join the fun.

Cheers!

 

[nykobing]

That's correct. The earliest I have of the Voskhod or Reflektor single wire getter post is 1970, the oldest 1975.

I have other Voskhod tubes earlier, but they are 6n2p, not the same tube. These Russian, Ukraine, Moldovian dealers will slip those in occasionally - when they're supposed to be sending 6n23p only. Ugg! So be careful!

 
I thought so. I mentioned Zaerix rebranding 6n23p's before, but I was wrong about the years. The 7dj8 and 6dj8 on ebay seem to be from the 1980's, but I did find these the other day.
 

 
The listing was for 10 of them, 9 of them were single wire getters, one of them was some East German ecc88. I made an offer and they came to about 6 or 7 bucks each with shipping included. They sound really good too. They are all grey shield with closed plates. I figured this would help some people that are looking for them.

 

[rb2013]

That is so cool! Sorry I didn't listen to you closer! Do they have a date code? Any silver shields in your batch?

I'm looking on ebay now and see the dual getter post versions ( kind of expensive vs the common Reflektors). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-NOS-Zaerix-Mullard-6DJ8-ECC88-/171317582696?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27e352db68

And an expensive single with the SWGP for $79.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/E88CC-6922-6DJ8-NIB-ZAERIX-GOLD-PINS-AUDIO-TUBE-/380599145707?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item589d7a14eb

Edit - I retract that last question, you mentioned gray shields.

 

[nykobing]

Nope. There aren't any dates on the tubes, that is why I was wondering about what years they could possibly be.
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-matched-balanced-ZAERIX-6DJ8-ECC88-E88CC-6922-CV2492-tubes-gold-pins-disc-/360847434253?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item54042ee20d
 
 
Those look like them too, at least I think you can see the single wire, so you can get an idea of the dates of the tubes. The ones I got were just regular steel pin, I guess that gold stuff was added when they did them for exprot.

 

[rb2013]

Nope. There aren't any dates on the tubes, that is why I was wondering about what years they could possibly be.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-matched-balanced-ZAERIX-6DJ8-ECC88-E88CC-6922-CV2492-tubes-gold-pins-disc-/360847434253?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item54042ee20d


Those look like them too, at least I think you can see the single wire, so you can get an idea of the dates of the tubes. The ones I got were just regular steel pin, I guess that gold stuff was added when they did them for exprot.

I can't believe they would gold plate the pins, but not put dates on them. Really to bad. Mixing dates will muddy the detail and soundstage depth and focus - like widely different output section and balance across pairs.

I did find the 1st gold pin '75 Voskhod gray plate - it's on it's way.

Good find anyway at $6 a tube! The pair you linked to are listed for $79!

 

[gmahler2u]

I can't believe they would gold plate the pins, but not put dates on them. Really to bad. Mixing dates will muddy the detail and soundstage depth and focus - like widely different output section and balance across pairs.

I did find the 1st gold pin '75 Voskhod gray plate - it's on it's way.

Good find anyway at $6 a tube! The pair you linked to are listed for $79!

Gold pin! that would be interesting to see/hear..