Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Jan 26, 2024 at 9:51 AM Post #137,536 of 153,571
In the house I've been renting for the past 1.5 years, probably 80% of the outlets can barely grip even the lightest, most basic plugs and I don't even know what to do about it. It's always felt like something I should be bugging my landlord about as it seems to be a safety issue as much as one of inconvenience.
Outlets are easy to overlook by landlords when they are sprucing up a place between tenants. Outlets get heavy usage in rentals as well, so I would think that alerting the landlord of all outlets that need replaced is a very valid request from a tenant. Having lived in rentals for most of my adult life, I know of the outlets of which you speak. 😊
 
Jan 26, 2024 at 9:58 AM Post #137,537 of 153,571
I have come to understand that Plankton is the same as PRaT, but as an acronym for Pace, Rythm and Timing, PRaT is easier to understand for me and Plankton remains more diffuse.

I always interpreted the term plankton as low-level detail retrieval/resolution, or the ability to communicate a very high percentage of the recorded musical information. PRaT would be part of that, as it relies on accurate transient response and decay and low distortion, but only a portion of the overall idea behind the term. I'm unsure why the term needs to be used though, when there exists more descriptive terminology to describe those qualities.
 
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Jan 26, 2024 at 10:00 AM Post #137,538 of 153,571
I really love my LS50 OG's, but IIRC the idea is to use a Rekkr.. With an 85dB sensitivity I really doubt if the combo wil work, even in a nearfield setup. My single Aegir sounds great, but as soon as I see an other one in the classifieds I'll jump on it and go mono..

Jason mentioned that one of the Schiit employees is happy using the Rekkr with a set of LS50s but I don't recall the name.

Fair point. Also, spending $1600 on speakers for a $150 amp is a little extreme.

Very much so. :D The price of the Rekkr is the reason I'm considering doing this instead of just going with a set of powered speakers.

If your space constrained I have and currently use the Paradigm MilleniaOne’s and drive them with an Ageir and that combo works great for a near field desktop setup. In a small room they also work well and fill the room nicely. A sub is needed to fill out the low end though.

When I did a search to see if they are still available I found them at Crutchfield. Links below. When viewing them on Crutfield’s site they also had listed others that were similar. The only one’s that I heard were the Focals and from recollection they sounded good and would be an option.

Paradigm MilleniaOne

Bookshelf Speakers Comparison

i did stumble across this review also when looking for them.
Sound and Vision Review - Paradigm MilleniaOne

Those seem similar in spec to the Deftechs that I have access to and validate my concerns about the low end. How would you suggest integrating a sub into a Rekkr setup?
 
Jan 26, 2024 at 10:05 AM Post #137,540 of 153,571
Don't want to start a war or anything, but if the regular 'ol IEC cords Schiit ships with their equipment aren't long enough, and I wanted to go through the effort of building a new one to length, I'd probably go with something like this. Now saying the rhodium plated plugs/receptacles aren't pretty, but it's just not for me. As the saying goes, you do you.

For wall outlets, I'd rather have a right angle plug.

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Jan 26, 2024 at 10:09 AM Post #137,541 of 153,571
The maintenance guy for the apartment complex I live in told me that he's fixed a LARGE number of walls in the buildings because fires have started in outlets because they barely held onto the plugs. So, YES it's a safety concern! If the landlord won't replace them, you can do it yourself and deduct the cost of the outlets from next month's rent! Or, get an electrician to do it and deduct HIS bill from your rent! Don't leave them like that. Something bad is bound to happen probably sooner than later!
Really appreciate this response. Thank you.
 
Jan 26, 2024 at 10:15 AM Post #137,542 of 153,571
This. I suspect the ONLY difference for us was that you did this more recently than 1990. Symo was all the “rage” for Apogees back then. My home-made 2 guage biwire set was every bit as good (going on 30+ year old memories here now). Despite JUST having laid out $16+K for the entire system, I just couldn’t stomach more for speaker cables than I had just spent on my Moving Coil! :wink:

You get those siggies used? How’re your ribbon foams holding out? (Or have you had the re-do?).
Purchased new. Fun story; the day I picked them up, I ran into Gerard Schwarz, then conductor of the Seattle Symphony, he was arranging to have his Duetta Sigs delivered.
 
Jan 26, 2024 at 10:30 AM Post #137,544 of 153,571
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I guess one of the things I'm trying to figure out is if Rekkr plus $150 speakers will sound better or worse than a $300 set of powered speakers. ...
I'd guess better unless you're a basshead. Powered monitors often have "an amp" just for the woofer. The better ones have tuned DSP for each driver; I imagine those are money :wink:

So budget and what would you consider a fair size? I have a pair of B&W M-1 I don't need.....
 
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Jan 26, 2024 at 11:07 AM Post #137,545 of 153,571
@Bowmoreman @adias thanks for the replies. Bow I just read your SBAF friends post too, that was helpful as well. Glad you found a synergy with skol. Yep, familiar with the DR6 and the ML comaprables. I come from a similar generation, more so Threshold, Forte', Pass for SS, and all-tube is a different chapter of the past decade. I rotate my SS gear in once in a while to give all-tube setup a break. Was about ready to mod and upgrade some older Forte' Audio or Threshold or Nakamichi preamps, and Kara caught my attention too as a piece to try and see if its truly a value or not. Looks good on paper, sure, yet as others have nudged me, gotta try it to know - in my system, tbd.

@Bowmoreman So one last question. about "good enough". Did you recap the DR6 and are you keeping it or sending it on to the next lucky owner?
 
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Jan 26, 2024 at 11:44 AM Post #137,547 of 153,571
I found this humorous and yet disturbing...

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Jan 26, 2024 at 11:58 AM Post #137,549 of 153,571
Jason mentioned that one of the Schiit employees is happy using the Rekkr with a set of LS50s but I don't recall the name.



Very much so. :D The price of the Rekkr is the reason I'm considering doing this instead of just going with a set of powered speakers.



Those seem similar in spec to the Deftechs that I have access to and validate my concerns about the low end. How would you suggest integrating a sub into a Rekkr setup?
Out of my Jot2 I’m using a Y splitter RCA male to two RCA female to then feed the amp and subwoofer. It took some listening to get the correct x-over frequency and level dialed in on the sub. I would also listen for periods with the sub off to ensure I wasn’t crossing over to high and over boosting the overlapping frequencies. I’ve used that approach numerous times when integrating subs with systems with no bass management capabilities. It works well and is similar to how REL integrates it’s sub except for speaker taps vs RCA inputs.

I bought the Aegir as there wasn’t a smaller amp option from Schiit at the time. The Aegir for me replaced a Emotiva A-100 miniX amp. I’m temped to try the REKKR or maybe the Gjallahorn if I move this around in the future.
 
Jan 26, 2024 at 12:00 PM Post #137,550 of 153,571
The LS50 are definitely outside of my budget. :D



I'm not completely sure, especially since I have to factor in the purchase price of the Rekkr. I'm thinking maybe $300 but there's some flexibility.

I guess one of the things I'm trying to figure out is if Rekkr plus $150 speakers will sound better or worse than a $300 set of powered speakers. I hate to pay for functionality I won't use since I already have a DAC with the Modi and I'm concerned that the powered speakers will eventually end up doing the same hissing as my current set.

Yes, the Rekkr will sound better than the built in often cheap class D self powered speaker.

I've not found powered speakers <$300 thar were anything special or good. You'd do better getting a used pair of good bookshelf speakers and a Rekkr IMHO.
 

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