I have a little more insight.....
Even if many are disappointed, we also have to be a little fair to Sonova, the takeover was not so long ago️
I'm sure Jermo has something in the pipeline and planned
(But they must not take too long, they must become faster and learn to take risks)
I think the HD 800 successor is impractical and would have to be chemical vapor deposition diamond or some such more expensive process. Hopefully they'll find a way to improve HD 800
Heck, just last summer, What Hi-Fi did an interview with someone at Sennheiser who ironically holds a position at the company called "Audiophile Product Manager", in which he literally said, "well, we'd love to make a HD800S successor, but it's impractical".
I mean, there you go. They spelled it out eight months ago. They're not in the business of making flagships anymore, and an "HD900" probably won't ever happen to any meaningful degree.
Odd - the official Sennheiser account owner had the time to make a hype post, but not the common decency to respond to any of the posts in this thread...
Really poor corporate approach to your previous customer base. Hard to believe that anything geared toward the higher end will ever come from Sennheiser - you wouldn't anger and ignore that market segment if you wanted to sell into it in the future.
Odd - the official Sennheiser account owner had the time to make a hype post, but not the common decency to respond to any of the posts in this thread...
Odd - the official Sennheiser account owner had the time to make a hype post, but not the common decency to respond to any of the posts in this thread...
Really poor corporate approach to your previous customer base. Hard to believe that anything geared toward the higher end will ever come from Sennheiser - you wouldn't anger and ignore that market segment if you wanted to sell into it in the future.
all in all, what can they say? I wouldn't want to be in his shoes. "Hey sorry guys we streamed through a 1920s microphone and we are focusing on consoomer stuff that no one in the audiophile world gives a rat's ass about". They have already lost the customer base, they're here by pure brand inertia.
Yeah, I get the hyped up presentation complaints, but the over $1k headphone, over ear, on ear, in ear or whatever, is so saturated.. You know, y’all can save a fortune reselling your TOTL headphones back and forth to each other, or maybe just lending out. There isn’t anything today that blows my STAX Sigmas out of the water, and I’ve had them 30 years. My woodies, Denon and AT, still hold up too, tho they’re more recent. Meh….
all in all, what can they say? I wouldn't want to be in his shoes. "Hey sorry guys we streamed through a 1920s microphone and we are focusing on consoomer stuff that no one in the audiophile world gives a rat's ass about". They have already lost the customer base, they're here by pure brand inertia.
I would think some kind of damage control or a simple "apologies for the confusion" would be the smart path if they have interest in the high end market/customers.
That said, I'm not surprised. Niche markets are usually shaved off of the product lines/offerings post acquisition and they seem to be focusing on mass market products, particularly those with some potential technology crossover with hearing aids. Frankly, that's the financially smart move - I would only suggest they don't hype the legacy market that seems destined to wither away
The Momentum TWS 4 seems to be flying under the radar maybe? The version 3 seemed to be a very good 'analog' to the IE lineup with the newest driver. Should my IE 600 be even more afraid than before? Can I tweak them to sound like an IE 900? Improved ANC or...? Apologies - jumping into this late.
Well they got me hook line and sinker. For the past few years I’ve heard that senn is going down the pan but I didn’t want to jump on that bandwagon and give them a chance, seems to me that audiophile is no longer a concern.
2009 is the last time we got a flagship (let’s not include different HD800 flavours and HE1) they’ve had more than enough time to make a new HD750 and HD900 but it’s clear now that’s not what’s important anymore. TWS development is getting all the attention. What once was the benchmark for dynamic driver headphones has now become a meme.
It is what it is…. Those new sports buds alone will bring in more money that all the high end products combined, and you can throw in the HD-6XX line…. They’ll sell millions!!! I’m getting them myself
It is what it is…. Those new sports buds alone will bring in more money that all the high end products combined, and you can throw in the HD-6XX line…. They’ll sell millions!!! I’m getting them myself
Sad - but it's the real truth and it doesn't only apply to Sennheiser and not only to headphones.
This is how every passion and hobby is killed -
it is just a mass of products intended for the mass of buyers who are supposed to blindly buy these products
and not ask any questions because they will buy another version in a year anyway.
Sad - but it's the real truth and it doesn't only apply to Sennheiser and not only to headphones.
This is how every passion and hobby is killed -
it is just a mass of products intended for the mass of buyers who are supposed to blindly buy these products
and not ask any questions because they will buy another version in a year anyway.
Earbuds and crappy wireless products have been around for YEARS and have not harmed the audiophile industry. This industry is alive and kicking and there will always be a market for folks who prefer fidelity over anything else.
What matters is that Sennheiser was purchased by a company that wants to see a return on their investment as soon as humanly possible. What happens when that’s the case? They go for what will sell the most and the fastest. This means products to the general masses in the millions vs audiophiles in the thousands.
The folks passionate about audio aren’t running the company anymore….number crunchers are. Kinda like what’s happening with Boeing and why their planes are cheap, dangerous and all about cutting corners and maximizing profits.
Sad - but it's the real truth and it doesn't only apply to Sennheiser and not only to headphones.
This is how every passion and hobby is killed****
it is just a mass of products intended for the mass of buyers who are supposed to blindly buy these products
and not ask any questions because they will buy another version in a year anyway.
**** not really. The 'passion and hobby' is not killed - they may be harder to fulfill. This is when the chasm widens between 'pretenders' and 'contenders'.
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- but it's the real truth and it doesn't only apply to Sennheiser and not only to headphones.
