elrod-tom
Moderator - Prefers "stereo weirdo" to "audiophile"
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I suggest going back and relistening to the Miles SACD. There is a distinct and audible distortion of the first trumpet blares in "So What" that's been there in every single redbook CD I've ever heard (and I've had at least 6 of them over the years, including the most recent Legacy Edition). It's not there on the SACD version I have. I can't believe that the mastering folks don't know it's there, so what are we to make of this?
Maybe Steve can provide some insight into this, but I understand that there are certain tones that are difficult to do right with PCM 16/44.1, and that trumpets sometimes fall into that range of difficulty. If so, this might explain a few things...dunno.
I've got a library of about 250 hi rez recordings, between DVD-A and SACD formats. I'm a big believer in these formats. I suspect that a lot of it is greater care that's taken in mastering, but it's hard for me to believe that there isn't more going on than superior mastering. I've had the opportunity to listen to some of my MoFi SACD Hybrids on some very nice universal players, and frankly the higher up-market you go, the harder it gets to tell the difference. Having said that, my Denon 2910 with an SACD layer simply lays waste to the same Redbook layer...it's not even close.
I've got some SACD's that frankly I can do without. One of my favorite Stones albums, Let it Bleed, is painful for me to listen to on SACD. It's almost like they did TOO good a job revealing the source limitations. Then there's Oasis' (What's the Story) Morning Glory...I just don't know what the point of that exercise was. Overly hot, ultra distorted tracks pretty much sound the same whether it's SACD or Redbook. There aren't a lot that come to mind where it's a bad choice to pick the hi-rez version.
That's my $0.02 worth...
Originally Posted by martini1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am not surprised. I did an a/b on two titles - Kind of blue, and Getz/Gilberto...The miles SACD is in multi channel. Other than that the sound quality is too close to tell. The Getz cd may have a treble but I am not sure if this is just different mastering. |
I suggest going back and relistening to the Miles SACD. There is a distinct and audible distortion of the first trumpet blares in "So What" that's been there in every single redbook CD I've ever heard (and I've had at least 6 of them over the years, including the most recent Legacy Edition). It's not there on the SACD version I have. I can't believe that the mastering folks don't know it's there, so what are we to make of this?
Maybe Steve can provide some insight into this, but I understand that there are certain tones that are difficult to do right with PCM 16/44.1, and that trumpets sometimes fall into that range of difficulty. If so, this might explain a few things...dunno.
I've got a library of about 250 hi rez recordings, between DVD-A and SACD formats. I'm a big believer in these formats. I suspect that a lot of it is greater care that's taken in mastering, but it's hard for me to believe that there isn't more going on than superior mastering. I've had the opportunity to listen to some of my MoFi SACD Hybrids on some very nice universal players, and frankly the higher up-market you go, the harder it gets to tell the difference. Having said that, my Denon 2910 with an SACD layer simply lays waste to the same Redbook layer...it's not even close.
I've got some SACD's that frankly I can do without. One of my favorite Stones albums, Let it Bleed, is painful for me to listen to on SACD. It's almost like they did TOO good a job revealing the source limitations. Then there's Oasis' (What's the Story) Morning Glory...I just don't know what the point of that exercise was. Overly hot, ultra distorted tracks pretty much sound the same whether it's SACD or Redbook. There aren't a lot that come to mind where it's a bad choice to pick the hi-rez version.
That's my $0.02 worth...