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NwAvGuy, like any other objectivist, would say that the differences you hear would probably vanish in a proper double blind test. Haven't you read his blog?
NwAvGuy, like any other objectivist, would say that the differences you hear would probably vanish in a proper double blind test. Haven't you read his blog?
The E9's high output impedance (that's measurable!) would probably have caused a high frequency spike of several decibels (that's measurable too!) with my balanced armature Shure SE425 IEMs. I wanted an amp/DAC combo that would work well with any headphones/IEMs, and with good build quality. My FiiO E7 developped contact problems on both headphone outs after only a couple of months, so I didn't want to risk buying anything more from FiiO.
Now that I have my O2/ODAC, I don't need anything else. And yeah, I probably couldn't differentiate it from some other, cheaper gear that measures well (e.g. a FiiO E7), but I don't claim that I could, and I don't care. It's fully transparent, and that's exactly what it was designed to achieve. Also, it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of overkill.
I agree with that, but it's a bit annoying how people claim every headphone under say 80 ohm is going to magically be altered. The Q701 doesn't change a bit with the E9's 10 ohm output impedance.
That's not speculation on my part, I've measured it, though with a lower output impedance (5.5Ω). The variation in frequency response that I will witness with my IEMs as output impedance grows, is a boost in the high frequencies.
Also, the 10Ω impedance is on the 1/4" jack, which would require the use of an adapter for no good reason. The 1/8" jack's impedance is 43Ω!
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Wait...wasnt this an JDS O2 Black edition O2/ODAC discussion???
Alex
The E9 with a 10 ohm output will degrade the sound with some headphones.
Cans having a high impedace greater than 80 ohms are the best to use with it.....
Other than that nwavguy has done a review of this amp and gave it a very good writeup....
Wait...wasnt this an JDS O2 Black edition O2/ODAC discussion???
Alex
Nothing wrong with comparing the O2/ODAC to other amps..
Maybe the O2 isn't the world's most transparent amp after all.
It's the E9!!!
I still need to get the O2 to compare to the Magni. Maybe the Magni is really not as good as the O2 (to my ears).
Isn't the general rule of thumb to have a load/headphone impedance at least 8 times that of the source's output impedance?
If so, does that still apply to every-day earphones with a typical impedance rating of 16 ohms? And if yes, from what I recall, iPods tend to have a high output impedance (something like ~7 ohms), wouldn't the earphones be....not optimal-sounding (I don't know what happens when the output/source impedance ratio is less than 8)?
Oh god it's that cable guy. No comment.
This is probably going to end up sounding like a really dumb question, but does the DAC really make a difference in sound quality? I only have 1 dedicated DAC (ODAC) and it doesn't sound significantly better than my on-board computer DAC to me. The amp certainly makes a much larger difference to my ears. It's not what an audiophile would consider "good", but aren't most DAC's these days actually pretty decent in terms of audible differences, not measurements? My iPod Video has pretty good sound quality compared to the 2nd gen iPod Touch, but I don't know if that's due to the DAC (Wolfson vs Cirrus) or if it's due to the amp....I should really get one of those LOD's in the near future, shouldn't I?