[Danx3k]

If I stream from the iOS Qobuz app on my iPhone 14 over AirPlay on my WiFi network, is this streaming the audio lossless?

I’ve tried to look online but I hear talk about AirPlay 1 and Airplay 2. I literally have no I idea which version of AirPlay the iOS Qobuz app is using.

There’s no mention of which version I’m using, I just see what it shows in the two images below.

Update: found an answer on Qobuz website.

So it is, but it’s limited to 48khz, unless I use a device with built in Google cast/ chromecast

 

[drbusner]

Unfortunately, no. Apple seems to have prioritized streaming to multiple endpoints at lossy rates rather than lossless streaming to a single endpoint from iOS. However, it appears to be possible to stream at 16/44.1 via AirPlay from a Mac but only if the endpoint is selected in the System Settings, not from the streaming app itself. That is, unless things have changed since last year. (This is all incredibly stupid.)

EDIT: Darko claims that the Qobuz iOS app can force 16/44.1 lossless streaming via AirPlay 1 in the iOS app (indicated by a check mark in iOS AirPlay settings vs. check mark inside a circle):
https://darko.audio/2023/10/apple-airplay-isnt-always-lossless-sometimes-its-lossy/

 

[Danx3k]

Unfortunately, no. Apple seems to have prioritized streaming to multiple endpoints at lossy rates rather than lossless streaming to a single endpoint from iOS. However, it appears to be possible to stream at 16/44.1 via AirPlay from a Mac but only if the endpoint is selected in the System Settings, not from the streaming app itself. That is, unless things have changed since last year. (This is all incredibly stupid.)

Maybe you’re right, but it says this on Qobuz site though. Either way it’s still not lossless if you’re playing hi-res files.

 

[drbusner]

Maybe you’re right, but it says this on Qobuz site though. Either way it’s still not lossless if you’re playing hi-res files.

Yeah, that might be accurate. I've updated my earlier post with a link to someone's testing of AirPlay throughput through different combinations.

 

[ahmonge]

If I stream from the iOS Qobuz app on my iPhone 14 over AirPlay on my WiFi network, is this streaming the audio lossless?

According to Qobuz:
“The Airplay function on iOS only allows Qobuz to be used in CD quality due to Airplay’s restriction to 16-bit digital audio files at 48 kHz.”
https://help.qobuz.com/en/articles/10209-how-do-i-experience-hi-res-on-ios

 

[WillieB]

I typically use Audirvana on a PC as my audio player. It's been down today due to a MS/Azure issue in Europe so this is my first time spending time with the Qobuz app on PC. I must say, it's a disappointment. The player itself is trash. At least it supports exclusive mode so I can try and fix some of it's awful screech on the RME. I definitely would not be a subscriber if I had to use this every day.

 

[TheAbyss2022]

I typically use Audirvana on a PC as my audio player. It's been down today due to a MS/Azure issue in Europe so this is my first time spending time with the Qobuz app on PC. I must say, it's a disappointment. The player itself is trash. At least it supports exclusive mode so I can try and fix some of it's awful screech on the RME. I definitely would not be a subscriber if I had to use this every day.

Qobuz works with Roon also but Audirvana has the best audio quality by far.

 

[WillieB]

Qobuz works with Roon also but Audirvana has the best audio quality by far.

I agree, but Audirvana should really have a contention so that the application can operate when the license servers are down. Their support is a clown show too. I endure their bullsh*t for the very reason that you cite, but one day that won't be enough.

 

[punkedrock]

Quick question. I have an iBasso DX320 DAP,
What's the best way to find the settings so my downloads aren't discontinued? I have a terrible internet connection and am trying to use offline listening. Thanks ahead.

 

[dgjl]

Quick question. I have an iBasso DX320 DAP,
What's the best way to find the settings so my downloads aren't discontinued? I have a terrible internet connection and am trying to use offline listening. Thanks ahead.

It's simple enough. Go to settings then imports/downloads to choose your quality. Then go to settings/storage to choose your internal or external memory. Then you are good to go. All you have to do is select an album or a playlist and click the little down arrow icon below the album/song title. It will then start to download. You can play your downloads by choosing 'IMPORTS' on the bottom tool bar in the app. I hope that helps.

 

[punkedrock]

It's simple enough. Go to settings then imports/downloads to choose your quality. Then go to settings/storage to choose your internal or external memory. Then you are good to go. All you have to do is select an album or a playlist and click the little down arrow icon below the album/song title. It will then start to download. You can play your downloads by choosing 'IMPORTS' on the bottom tool bar in the app. I hope that helps.

I knew all that, it’s just my actual downloads keep stopping and never restarting when the internet picks back up. I’m on android 11, just thought their might be an android setting or tweak somewhere hidden.

 

[dgjl]

Qobuz 8.0.0 is available, at least in beta. Biggest changes to the Qobuz UI in an age. While there maybe a few quirks that irritate some, I am really pleased to see that you can now organise your library in a simplified way by Artist, like pretty much every other app ever. Makes handling a massive library of releases much, much easier. Would be nice if they could add a alphabetical slider. I'm sure it'll come.

 

[blotmouse]

I have not tried the beta (just found out, thanks)

What I'd really like to see is the ability to sort by date added 'Oldest First'.
And Favorites to remember your last scrolled location after investigating Album details, and you are just going back to your Favorites list. So annoying to have to scroll endlessly back to where you were. I'd also have way less in my library if I could purge the older ones without having to scroll, again, forever to reach them. My fav end up kind of like my gmail inbox. thousands of forgotten about releases having to be managed by Qobuz servers unnecessarily because it's too much work to reach them.

 

[Lifter59]

Qobuz 8.0.0 is available, at least in beta. Biggest changes to the Qobuz UI in an age. While there maybe a few quirks that irritate some, I am really pleased to see that you can now organise your library in a simplified way by Artist, like pretty much every other app ever. Makes handling a massive library of releases much, much easier. Would be nice if they could add a alphabetical slider. I'm sure it'll come.

iOS beta is still at 7.10.1 - looking forward to seeing the 8.0.0 when released for testing.

 

[punkedrock]

Does anybody use Roon, simply for music suggestions on Windows / a digital audio player? I’m curious.
I don’t know if this is even a thing that I can do with Roon but I think it is where I just use it with headphones on a laptop / dap.